Topic: England Vs India Test Matches (Read 169994 times)

smilley792 · « **Reply #975 on:** August 21, 2018, 11:22:16 AM »

Roots defiantly not being the batsman he was/can be in This series?

Is it the captaincy as he�s still one of the best Odi batsman? Or is it the odis that�s ruining him as test??

Also whys pope chased that??

Mister Le Chiffre · « **Reply #976 on:** August 21, 2018, 11:22:55 AM »

Pope not technically good enough to bat at 4, if he's playing he's gotta down at 6

stevat · « **Reply #977 on:** August 21, 2018, 11:23:12 AM »

Two more (3/4) of them out playing at balls they needn't have. The abject failures are all encompassing it seems. Feel it would be a little early to judge Jennings? Or let him regroup in the Championship and come back stronger?

Mister Le Chiffre · « **Reply #978 on:** August 21, 2018, 11:23:44 AM »

Quote from: smilley792 on August 21, 2018, 11:22:16 AM

Roots defiantly not being the batsman he was/can be in This series?

Is it the captaincy as he�s still one of the best Odi batsman? Or is it the odis that�s ruining him as test??

Also what pipe chased that??

Root's more loose since we became obsessed with ODI cricket

FattusCattus · « **Reply #979 on:** August 21, 2018, 11:24:26 AM »

We're a good one day side aren't we? we certainly like going for our shots.

This elevation to amazing status in limited overs cricket seems to have brought about the demise of out test batting.

If this is Bayliss's influence, perhaps we ought to have 2 x vastly different XIs or two different coaches.

stevat · « **Reply #980 on:** August 21, 2018, 11:29:54 AM »

You'd like to think the core would be the same, but that there would be one or two Test specialists, like Anderson and Cook.

ppccopener · « **Reply #981 on:** August 21, 2018, 11:30:28 AM »

Quote from: smilley792 on August 21, 2018, 11:22:16 AM

Roots defiantly not being the batsman he was/can be in This series?

Is it the captaincy as he�s still one of the best Odi batsman? Or is it the odis that�s ruining him as test??

Also whys pope chased that??

he hasn't been for a while

its takes big kahunas to relive Root of the captaincy, and that's exactly what we should do

ppccopener · « **Reply #982 on:** August 21, 2018, 12:08:27 PM »

Quote from: FattusCattus on August 21, 2018, 11:24:26 AM

We're a good one day side aren't we? we certainly like going for our shots.

This elevation to amazing status in limited overs cricket seems to have brought about the demise of out test batting.

If this is Bayliss's influence, perhaps we ought to have 2 x vastly different XIs or two different coaches.

yes they could put Farbrace in charge full time of the test side, Bayliff ends next year anyway

and make Thorpe batting coach. Someone with a proven test batting record and the mental toughness to score test hundreds.

SLA · « **Reply #983 on:** August 21, 2018, 12:31:39 PM »

Quote from: ppccopener on August 21, 2018, 12:08:27 PM

yes they could put Farbrace in charge full time of the test side, Bayliff ends next year anyway

and make Thorpe batting coach. Someone with a proven test batting record and the mental toughness to score test hundreds.

yeah, Thorpe to me has always seemed to be in the wrong job. He should be working with our test team on how to prepare instead of Ramprakash. His current role in defining what batting techniques should be taught by coaches doesn't really seem appropriate for an ex-player. Its a position where we really need an accomplished biomechanics expert and student of the game.

My experience of the coaching materials that have been produced by the ECB under Thorpe are that they are completely useless. Which is strange, because when you listen to him speak on youtube he does mostly seem to know what he's talking about - at least about strategy - I don't think his biomechanics is up to much.

SLA · « **Reply #984 on:** August 21, 2018, 12:38:51 PM »

Quote from: rickjames on August 21, 2018, 11:20:06 AM

Why is this team so spineless?

Our batsmen are either completely past it (Cook), or are white ball cricketers being asked to turn their hand to test cricket. They've come up through the ranks working on their boundary catching, paddle sweeps and power hitting. Expecting them to be able to take slip catches and negotiate difficult periods of play against the moving ball is simply outside of their skillset and its unfair to expect anything more than we're getting.

Anyone surprised when England repeatedly collapse clearly hasn't been paying attention for the past few years. The ECB have openly and explicitly switched focus to white ball cricket and asked the players and coaches to focus 100% on those skills as test cricket is being slowly wound-down and performances are now considered irrelevant. Its only the fans who cares and the fans are irrelevant to ECB's plans.

Big Mac · « **Reply #985 on:** August 21, 2018, 01:29:09 PM »

Quote from: northernboy1987 on August 21, 2018, 08:57:20 AM

Yup, very timely ton by Mo

Make that a double. Moeen just dismissed for 219. I believe he scored a T20 ton a few days ago so he's in good form, as well as being popular in the dressing room.

Got to have a great chance of making it into the team for the 4th test if Bairstow can't go?

ppccopener · « **Reply #986 on:** August 21, 2018, 01:41:11 PM »

Quote from: Big Mac on August 21, 2018, 01:29:09 PM

Make that a double. Moeen just dismissed for 219. I believe he scored a T20 ton a few days ago so he's in good form, as well as being popular in the dressing room.

Got to have a great chance of making it into the team for the 4th test if Bairstow can't go?

yes for sure. but it doesn't actually solve the problem we have. im sure as others have said he is favourite to be picked.
What the selectors will do because we have loads of middle order players is keep picking them

instead of saying, hang on, we have a whole team full anyway, lets look at another area.

Root is already 3, he wont go up an further.no one else if the current team could open the batting

stevat · « **Reply #987 on:** August 21, 2018, 01:44:39 PM »

I'd keep Jennings for the series and let Mo come in for Bairstow if required. If Cook is absent for the fourth test, I would call up Burns or Mitchell or Clarke.

csnew · « **Reply #988 on:** August 21, 2018, 01:45:37 PM »

Buttler showing why he has no technique for test match cricket. Edges galore, and dropped on early on - just like the first innings

ppccopener · « **Reply #989 on:** August 21, 2018, 01:54:02 PM »

Quote from: csnew on August 21, 2018, 01:45:37 PM

Buttler showing why he has no technique for test match cricket. Edges galore, and dropped on early on - just like the first innings

he is showing why technique is secondary to everything. him and stokes are at least batting it out and hanging in there.

its the midset that matters

greame smith had a shocking technique...batted for hours.

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