Topic: England Vs India Test Matches (Read 169877 times)

InternalTraining · « **Reply #1050 on:** August 21, 2018, 07:58:02 PM »

Pitch looks like a pile of sand. What happened to greentop English conditions?

brokenbat · « **Reply #1051 on:** August 21, 2018, 08:11:23 PM »

Quote from: smilley792 on August 21, 2018, 07:19:48 PM

Surely that�s what test cricket is about? Over 5 days, conditions will change and Mastering the conditions, and using them to your advantage?

I can�t rmember who now, but didn�t a teams declare there first innings, while behind so they could have a new swinging pink ball under lights?

@smilley792 I think it was Faf vs Aus.

stevat · « **Reply #1052 on:** August 21, 2018, 08:52:20 PM »

It's the application that gets me - I know that batsmen's strike rate has massively increased over the last few years, but there has to be some sort of tactical or match awareness within some of them players. I reckon at least 4 of them were out playing at balls they could have easily left.

Like I said earlier, I'm a Jennings fan, but to fence at a chest high ball at that point of the innings is ludicrous - no need to score runs or try and force it. The Root one as well, as Captain, is indefensible.

ProCricketer1982 · « **Reply #1053 on:** August 21, 2018, 09:48:53 PM »

Quote from: stevat on August 21, 2018, 08:52:20 PM

It's the application that gets me - I know that batsmen's strike rate has massively increased over the last few years, but there has to be some sort of tactical or match awareness within some of them players. I reckon at least 4 of them were out playing at balls they could have easily left.

Like I said earlier, I'm a Jennings fan, but to fence at a chest high ball at that point of the innings is ludicrous - no need to score runs or try and force it. The Root one as well, as Captain, is indefensible.

Positive brand of Cricket

Counter attack

Put the pressure on the bowler

Not indefensible in the modern mind sadly

northernboy1987 · « **Reply #1054 on:** August 22, 2018, 10:22:50 AM »

I think I speak for everyone here when I say it is obvious that the blame for this defeat falls squarely at the feet of Christopher Roger Woakes.

Mister Le Chiffre · « **Reply #1055 on:** August 22, 2018, 10:24:12 AM »

All over inside 17 balls the limping Ashwin got Anderson with a leg spinner. Kohli made 200 and we lost by 203 runs...

If the pitch at Southampton is flat then India's seamers look more capable of getting wickets. They bowl considerably quicker than England, and whom would ever that thought could ever happen

csnew · « **Reply #1056 on:** August 22, 2018, 10:27:20 AM »

What an embarrassing and heavy defeat. England have now lost 2 test matches this summer against subcontinent teams.

ppccopener · « **Reply #1057 on:** August 22, 2018, 10:30:06 AM »

Quote from: Mister Le Chiffre on August 22, 2018, 10:24:12 AM

All over inside 17 balls the limping Ashwin got Anderson with a leg spinner. Kohli made 200 and we lost by 203 runs...

If the pitch at Southampton is flat then India's seamers look more capable of getting wickets. They bowl considerably quicker than England, and whom would ever that thought could ever happen

bit surprised at the pace of Bumhra...he's pretty quick and bowled really well on that track

it could spin at the rose bowl which puts us on the back foot I would suggest if it does.

jamielsn15 · « **Reply #1058 on:** August 22, 2018, 10:39:44 AM »

Question, why would Kohli, as captain and MotM, turn down a request to be interviewed by TMS?

He's probably the best batsman in the world and is having a superb series, they've just won a game, kept thenseries alive and battered the home team. Don't get why, when you're on the field doing media duties, you turn down an interview with the foremost radio broadcaster?

Agnew having to deal with a minder and Kohli has literally just ignored him amd walked off. That's really sad.

FattusCattus · « **Reply #1059 on:** August 22, 2018, 10:45:31 AM »

Cannot wait to hear the bland platitudes / excuses / rationales put forward by the robotic England players and coaching team.

I'm hoping it's something along the lines of 'simply not good enough', 'need to look at our techniques' and an honest appraisal of how poor we were.

Can't believe how many doubts there are over a single line up:

Cook - don't think he;s currently test standard
Jennings - technical issues everywhere
Root - not a natural captain, not enjoying no3, prone to many batting brainfarts
Pope - been thrown to the Lions somewhat, looks better suited to middle order dashing
Rashid - Not going to offer a captain any control as a sole spinner, don;t think he gives the Indians any sleepless nights
Broad - Apart from the (very) occasional 'wunderspell' seems to be in denial about not being able to pitch it up enough

ppccopener · « **Reply #1060 on:** August 22, 2018, 10:57:52 AM »

Quote from: FattusCattus on August 22, 2018, 10:45:31 AM

Cannot wait to hear the bland platitudes / excuses / rationales put forward by the robotic England players and coaching team.

I'm hoping it's something along the lines of 'simply not good enough', 'need to look at our techniques' and an honest appraisal of how poor we were.

Can't believe how many doubts there are over a single line up:

Cook - don't think he;s currently test standard
Jennings - technical issues everywhere
Root - not a natural captain, not enjoying no3, prone to many batting brainfarts
Pope - been thrown to the Lions somewhat, looks better suited to middle order dashing
Rashid - Not going to offer a captain any control as a sole spinner, don;t think he gives the Indians any sleepless nights
Broad - Apart from the (very) occasional 'wunderspell' seems to be in denial about not being able to pitch it up enough

get it off your chest cattus we are all feeling similar

well said that man!

number 1, absolutey number 1 and it wont happen is Root is not a Captain, he cant cope with it and its affecting his batting. He is not the first and wont be the last to have this problem.

Free him up to concentrate on being the best batsman he can be.

Smith has made some good calls so far he needs to show real balls now

jamielsn15 · « **Reply #1061 on:** August 22, 2018, 10:59:27 AM »

Pretty much spot on re responses to Qs from Root and Bayliss...

I think Cook is knackered, mentally amd physically. I think if we had another established opener they'd give him time off. I'd be surprised if he didn't opt out of winter touring this year.

I'd be reluctant to discard him if he did. I think if he had a winter break it would lengthen his career

Mister Le Chiffre · « **Reply #1062 on:** August 22, 2018, 11:06:26 AM »

If Cook is dropped/rested whatever they like to call it, it effectively ends his career. Next summer is the Ashes and he is Starc's bunny. So resting won't somehow make him score runs again

SLA · « **Reply #1063 on:** August 22, 2018, 11:09:46 AM »

Has anyone noticed how rather than actively looking to hit the ball, Jennings simply holds his bat roughly where he thinks the ball is going, and then just stands still and waits to see if the ball hits it? Sometimes it does, sometimes it doesn't.

Forget footwork, balance, alignment, interception points, any of that. This has got to be the worst defensive technique I have ever seen from a professional player.

ppccopener · « **Reply #1064 on:** August 22, 2018, 11:12:10 AM »

yeah I don't think we can jettison Cook although he is on the way down it seems. have to say he has had some good balls so far that have got him out so let not be too harsh, could anyone else of played them better?

you want England to bring on young players, with Curran and Pope they have done, its massively unfair to bat Pope out of position thou.someone else should move up.

perhaps a more experienced batter wold be an idea for the next year or so, I can think of

bell
hildreth
Mitchell
vince
malan
robson

vince and malan have had chances obviously, they didn't quite do enough. is it worth a third try with either of these two players?

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