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Re: England Vs India Test Matches
« Reply #1112 on: August 23, 2018, 11:35:52 AM »

you would think Vince now bats 3 if bairstow is unfit, pushing Root back to 4 and giving Pope a bit more of a chance

whether you think Vince is the right guy that surely has to be the right thinking. Pope is just a young lad they were asking too much of him I reckon
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Re: England Vs India Test Matches
« Reply #1113 on: August 23, 2018, 12:01:01 PM »

I'd quite like to see the following for the 4th test presuming Bairstow is out:

Cook
Jennings
Vince
Root
Pope
Buttler
Stokes
Ali
Woakes
Broad
Anderson

Would prefer Curran to be playing but hard to fit him in - nice to have some choice in the bowling department. If only the same could be said for the batting!!

*Cough* Daryl Mitchell *Cough*
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Re: England Vs India Test Matches
« Reply #1114 on: August 23, 2018, 12:22:31 PM »

Not sure why Vince is being brought in ahead of Bell...

I think it is the end for Bell,

......or a Bell-end if you like. :D
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Re: England Vs India Test Matches
« Reply #1115 on: August 23, 2018, 12:41:44 PM »

Yey!....Vince again look forward to him snicking off for a pretty 15-30
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Re: England Vs India Test Matches
« Reply #1116 on: August 23, 2018, 12:46:25 PM »

Shame as Bell looks to be in form. And we know he can perform at this level too!
But with Bairstow injured, Vince will get the 3 spot, although I suspect this will be his last chance to perform.

Cook
Jennings
Vince
Root (Captain Happy being back at 4!)
Pope
Stokes
Buttler
Woakes/Curran
Rashid/Ali
Stu
Jim

If Vince and Pope do perform, then once fit Bairstow may need to dislodge Buttler.
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Re: England Vs India Test Matches
« Reply #1117 on: August 23, 2018, 12:57:02 PM »

Shame as Bell looks to be in form. And we know he can perform at this level too!
But with Bairstow injured, Vince will get the 3 spot, although I suspect this will be his last chance to perform.

Cook
Jennings
Vince
Root (Captain Happy being back at 4!)
Pope
Stokes
Buttler
Woakes/Curran
Rashid/Ali
Stu
Jim

If Vince and Pope do perform, then once fit Bairstow may need to dislodge Buttler.


it might not be the end for Bell, sri lanka tour coming up, he can open, Jennings?  cook to take a tour off?

who knows

I think that will be the side PH, who is the better spinner? Rashid or Ali?  clearly lower order Ali is miles ahead as a batsman....

but we are picking the best spinner(I think) and that is Leach by my reckoning...
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Re: England Vs India Test Matches
« Reply #1118 on: August 23, 2018, 01:49:59 PM »

Shame as Bell looks to be in form. And we know he can perform at this level too!
But with Bairstow injured, Vince will get the 3 spot, although I suspect this will be his last chance to perform.

Cook
Jennings
Vince
Root (Captain Happy being back at 4!)
Pope
Stokes
Buttler
Woakes/Curran
Rashid/Ali
Stu
Jim

If Vince and Pope do perform, then once fit Bairstow may need to dislodge Buttler.

Yep that will definitely be the team dependent on Bairstow's fitness of course.

The interesting scenarios here I see are as follows -

1. How long can Root put up with Rashid, having no control from a spinner etc... therefore surely brings into question selecting Mo.

2. Does Buttler actually keep the gloves permanently if he has a great game and when YBJ comes back he is a specialist batsman.

3. As said above... what happens if Vince actually gets it right?
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Re: England Vs India Test Matches
« Reply #1119 on: August 23, 2018, 02:04:20 PM »

3. well.....Vince has another big chance here. if you can bat 3 you can open.Jennings to be needs a score this time otherwise he's out.Cook does too,maybe he wont tour SL.

its a huge opportunity again for him.I hope he does well despite the frustrations of watching him cream everything in sight then get out the same way
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Re: England Vs India Test Matches
« Reply #1120 on: August 23, 2018, 02:09:26 PM »

Question of the day: how long do England persist with Cook? He isnt getting any younger and hasnt justified his selection in a long time now. Is it time to let him go? Maybe have him play a few fc games to get his confidence back? Clearly reputation alone doesnt justify selection?
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Re: England Vs India Test Matches
« Reply #1121 on: August 23, 2018, 02:22:17 PM »

Question of the day: how long do England persist with Cook? He isnt getting any younger and hasnt justified his selection in a long time now. Is it time to let him go? Maybe have him play a few fc games to get his confidence back? Clearly reputation alone doesnt justify selection?

You say reputation alone doesn't get you selected but that completely depends on the player and circumstances.

The Cook situation is an extremely strange situation which the ECB have made worse by not looking at any sort of succession plan. We all know the stats about how many partners he's had.

Firstly, you look at Cooks career and as I have said before it is full of peaks and troughs so what's to say that he isn't going to go out and score big next innings?

Secondly, as he is an opener you have to look at the other end as well and quite frankly Jennings is clearly batting just as bad (if not worse) as Cook - so what do you do, drop both of them!
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Re: England Vs India Test Matches
« Reply #1122 on: August 23, 2018, 02:32:05 PM »

Question of the day: how long do England persist with Cook? He isnt getting any younger and hasnt justified his selection in a long time now. Is it time to let him go? Maybe have him play a few fc games to get his confidence back? Clearly reputation alone doesnt justify selection?

Until they find someone to replace him.
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Re: England Vs India Test Matches
« Reply #1123 on: August 23, 2018, 02:46:23 PM »

Give Jason Roy a go maybe? Try Roy and JB as openers?
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Re: England Vs India Test Matches
« Reply #1124 on: August 23, 2018, 03:34:38 PM »

Give Jason Roy a go maybe? Try Roy and JB as openers?

Personally I would give both Cook and Jennings the rest of series and then if neither perform you can drop Jennings and also say to Cook take the Winter to be with your new baby and kids whilst we try someone new etc...

Then give 2 new openers the 6 tests through the winter. So choose 2 from Burns, Gubbins, Mitchell etc...
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