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Re: England Vs India Test Matches
« Reply #1185 on: August 29, 2018, 01:22:15 PM »

This is great from Jonathan Liew on Twitter:

That England middle order in full:
4 Keeper who can’t keep playing as batsman
5 All-rounder who can’t bowl
6 Batsman playing as keeper
7 Whatever Mo is these days
8 All-rounder dropped when first all-rounder was cleared in court recalled to do his bowling for him

Hope this helps
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Re: England Vs India Test Matches
« Reply #1186 on: August 29, 2018, 01:29:50 PM »

Completely agree, ridiculous to expect him to score top order runs when keeping when Sanga, Ab, Stewart couldn't manage it!
Although I will say I spent two ODIs last summer sitting behind Bairstow's fielding position... brilliant is highly generous.

Once Stokes was at risk of not bowling then Pope was always going to miss out, probably a good thing that he's been swapped for an all-rounder rather than dropped, pressure whenever heay come back in future will hopefully be less!
de Villiers averaged 60 odd batting second in matches he kept so he was doing decently
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Re: England Vs India Test Matches
« Reply #1187 on: August 29, 2018, 01:39:40 PM »

de Villiers averaged 60 odd batting second in matches he kept so he was doing decently

He's also a scratch golfer, and could have played pro tennis and rugby. Best to limit discussion to mere mortals.
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Re: England Vs India Test Matches
« Reply #1188 on: August 29, 2018, 02:08:38 PM »

This is great from Jonathan Liew on Twitter:

That England middle order in full:
4 Keeper who can’t keep playing as batsman
5 All-rounder who can’t bowl
6 Batsman playing as keeper
7 Whatever Mo is these days
8 All-rounder dropped when first all-rounder was cleared in court recalled to do his bowling for him

Hope this helps

This side may have a very higgly-d piggly-d look about it but I can see it working (obviously openers need runs etc...) as Mo gives us an extra spin option which will help Root with Rashid.
Curran gives a left arm option etc...

And looking ahead to the winter Mo is definitely going to play and possibly another spinner as well as Rashid, so with Stokes bowling you actually could play Pope and another spinner for say Curran and Anderson/Broad as an example.
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Re: England Vs India Test Matches
« Reply #1189 on: August 29, 2018, 02:29:21 PM »

This side may have a very higgly-d piggly-d look about it but I can see it working (obviously openers need runs etc...) as Mo gives us an extra spin option which will help Root with Rashid.
Curran gives a left arm option etc...

And looking ahead to the winter Mo is definitely going to play and possibly another spinner as well as Rashid, so with Stokes bowling you actually could play Pope and another spinner for say Curran and Anderson/Broad as an example.


Hmmm.not how im seeing it. Yes Mo will tour with probably leach and Rashid(if he tours). Looking at this team we look a seasmer short if Stokes is struggling to bowl. In which case we should have another seamer in the side with Broad,Anderson and Curran

Glad Curran is back he was very unlucky to miss out last time. But we are now playing 2 spinners on a ground we have never needed 2 before. It going to swing at Trent Bridge.

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Re: England Vs India Test Matches
« Reply #1190 on: August 29, 2018, 02:41:56 PM »

Harsh on pope?

Not really, England dont need another person going for the number 6 spot at the moment
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Re: England Vs India Test Matches
« Reply #1191 on: August 29, 2018, 03:20:27 PM »

Hmmm.not how im seeing it. Yes Mo will tour with probably leach and Rashid(if he tours). Looking at this team we look a seasmer short if Stokes is struggling to bowl. In which case we should have another seamer in the side with Broad,Anderson and Curran

Glad Curran is back he was very unlucky to miss out last time. But we are now playing 2 spinners on a ground we have never needed 2 before. It going to swing at Trent Bridge.

 :)


Last test at the Rose bowl... Mo 8 fer and Cook runs! What he wouldn't give for those now.

http://www.espncricinfo.com/series/11691/scorecard/667715/england-vs-india-3rd-investec-test-india-tour-of-england-2014
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Re: England Vs India Test Matches
« Reply #1192 on: August 29, 2018, 03:49:15 PM »

Last test at the Rose bowl... Mo 8 fer and Cook runs! What he wouldn't give for those now.

http://www.espncricinfo.com/series/11691/scorecard/667715/england-vs-india-3rd-investec-test-india-tour-of-england-2014



ah..of course, its the rose bowl  :)

Cook to come good this match mark my words!
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Re: England Vs India Test Matches
« Reply #1193 on: August 29, 2018, 06:13:02 PM »

Not really, England dont need another person going for the number 6 spot at the moment

If they had dropped him for a batsman I would sort of have understood for that reason, but they'd have been much better playing Moeen for Rashid on the basis that he is a less lavish option.  If Stokes can't bowl much, Anderson, Broad, Curran, Ali, Jennings, Root wouldn't have sucked...
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Re: England Vs India Test Matches
« Reply #1194 on: August 29, 2018, 08:04:28 PM »

Don't see any issues with the bowling tbh. Anderson and Broad 20 overs each per day. Curran is 15 overs easily. Stokes maybe 5/8 overs. Moeen for the first innings 15-18 overs. Rashid a few as he's surely an option for the second innings
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Re: England Vs India Test Matches
« Reply #1195 on: August 29, 2018, 08:24:17 PM »

Rumours that India will be unchanged for the first time under Kohli's captaincy

Yes I read that. I'd be surprised if they didn't go for Jadeja though, would help to have another spin option down there, they could even drop a batsman and not massively weaken the order.
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Re: England Vs India Test Matches
« Reply #1196 on: August 29, 2018, 08:26:36 PM »

I like the look of this England line up with Bairstow up the order, I really rate him and don't think he'll let us down.
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Re: England Vs India Test Matches
« Reply #1197 on: August 29, 2018, 08:55:46 PM »

I think we might be getting used to it permanently pretty soon!

It's a tough call but the right one , bairstow has put a lot of work into his keeping but surely no one would doubt his position as one of the best 5 in the Country.
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Re: England Vs India Test Matches
« Reply #1198 on: August 30, 2018, 03:35:55 AM »

Despite all this talk of a resurgent India etc. in the news, I think Eng will win the last two tests easily. The last test win for India was a one off, maybe Eng took it a bit lightly after the big win at Lords and the toss decision backfired. 
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Re: England Vs India Test Matches
« Reply #1199 on: August 30, 2018, 05:40:52 AM »

This is great from Jonathan Liew on Twitter:

That England middle order in full:
4 Keeper who can’t keep playing as batsman
5 All-rounder who can’t bowl
6 Batsman playing as keeper
7 Whatever Mo is these days
8 All-rounder dropped when first all-rounder was cleared in court recalled to do his bowling for him

Hope this helps

I saw this one from Nick Hoult which is also excellent -

'England have a bloke batting at three who likes to bat four, a bloke batting four who likes to bat five, a bloke batting five who likes to bat six, a bloke batting six who was picked as a specialist no 7 and a no 7 who scored 219 last week batting at no 3'
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