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Re: England Vs India Test Matches
« Reply #1245 on: August 30, 2018, 05:15:18 PM »

England 246 all out probably would have settled for that when 86 for 6
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Re: England Vs India Test Matches
« Reply #1246 on: August 30, 2018, 05:18:46 PM »

Why waste the new ball with broad, give it to the young kid
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Re: England Vs India Test Matches
« Reply #1247 on: August 30, 2018, 05:37:43 PM »

Hameed
Burns
Bell ( purely as he has experience, form and we simply have nothing better)
Root
Bairstow
Stokes
The rest

Cook gets a break then can come back but just invest in this line up and tell thn top two Just To bat all day and care nothing for run rates etc.. leave that to 4/5/6
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Re: England Vs India Test Matches
« Reply #1248 on: August 30, 2018, 05:40:48 PM »

How would Hameed be a genuine option? Poor kid hasn't been the same since he had his mitt smashed by Yadav in 2016. I don't think he scored a 100 in 3 years
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Re: England Vs India Test Matches
« Reply #1249 on: August 30, 2018, 05:44:24 PM »

he is 36. some of the aussies recently have had success recalling older players

I think someone like ....the left hander chris Rodgers did a job for the team until quite recently

Adam Voges came to the party late as well and has a test average of 61 to show for it. Classy player as well.
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Re: England Vs India Test Matches
« Reply #1250 on: August 30, 2018, 05:44:41 PM »

India unearthed someone really special in Bumrah. In days gone past, India had bowlers whom faded later in the day when the opposition could cash in. Kohli's India are considerably more fitter and athletic. Bumrah and Shami 88mph pretty much all the time whatever spell they bowl in. Even Ishant has improved got his pace up around 85mph
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Re: England Vs India Test Matches
« Reply #1251 on: August 30, 2018, 05:54:32 PM »

How would Hameed be a genuine option? Poor kid hasn't been the same since he had his mitt smashed by Yadav in 2016. I don't think he scored a 100 in 3 years

Literally no one else looks capable or even willing to bat time .. he is the only one who has shown a willingness to dig in. In no way does he deserve a re call though really but it’s that desperate
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Re: England Vs India Test Matches
« Reply #1252 on: August 30, 2018, 06:07:39 PM »

Just heard the stats on the debate

In 2 years cook is averaging 17 if you take his 2 double 100s out. Really has become a flat track bully. I bet he was hoping to rack up runs against a weak Indian bowling line up like he’s done in the past

No other openers otherwise he doesn’t deserve his spot in the team.
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Re: England Vs India Test Matches
« Reply #1253 on: August 30, 2018, 06:22:07 PM »

Test side should be an entirely separate squad and that ought to be the mindset behind planning a future Test team. Give young guys a chance, let them grow into proper (Test) cricketers.

Cook will not drop himself from the side and Root will not step aside from the captaincy. Two tough calls need to be made by Strauss.
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Re: England Vs India Test Matches
« Reply #1254 on: August 30, 2018, 06:47:24 PM »

Listened to the day on the radio and it sounded dire, just watching the highlights,and it’s worse
I’ll say it again, just in case no one heard , cooks past it

And young curran is a little fighter, with a lot of talent

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Re: England Vs India Test Matches
« Reply #1255 on: August 30, 2018, 08:07:24 PM »

Well done Sam Curran- sounds really English in his interviews!
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Re: England Vs India Test Matches
« Reply #1256 on: August 30, 2018, 09:23:59 PM »

I think most people agree that if anyone else has stepped up as opener then Cook could be replaced, but as no-one has really done anything he's fairly safe. Even Root was only average 40-ish when opening, compared to 50-ish at 4.

Maybe it's time Root/Cook took the game by the horns and said they'll bat the first session each time.
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Re: England Vs India Test Matches
« Reply #1257 on: August 30, 2018, 09:35:51 PM »

We need another opener, maybe burns and a number 3 so root moves to 4. That would mean someone who does not deserve to be dropped like Curran or Woakes or Ali probably would miss out but I don't see what else we could do

If cook stays despite his form I think he should then you could have

Cook
Burns
Bell
Root
Bairstow
Stokes

Or maybe

Cook
Bell/Vince

That would make a space but we still need a number 3

So

Cook
Burns or bell
Vince
Root
Bairstow
Stokes

I can't see how we could dump both openers at once...,

If cook is really cooked...

Burns
Bell
Vince
Root
Bairstow
Stokes.

If you can bat 3 you can open hence Vince and bell could play there I think.

We have 4 number 6 batsmen at the moment and that just can't carry on.

Joe Clarke another who could bat 3 if you want a young player instead of Bell.

Personally I think a recall for Bell is 100 per cent what we should do.

Forget age....pick the best young or older player
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Re: England Vs India Test Matches
« Reply #1258 on: August 30, 2018, 10:01:07 PM »

Joe Denley with another Ton today his 3rd of the county championship this season and in red ball cricket very happy to bat time. I know I’m a massive Kent fan but worth a shout for the No3 spot slotting root back to 4

Afraid I’m starting agree about Cook although with a bigger issue at the other end he has to stay for at least the winter but Jennings is just not cut for Test cricket just as Mark Stoneman wasn’t. I guess it’s either Burns or Hameed but just don’t see how you can pick him when his best score all year is something like 36
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Re: England Vs India Test Matches
« Reply #1259 on: August 30, 2018, 10:04:23 PM »

I think most people agree that if anyone else has stepped up as opener then Cook could be replaced, but as no-one has really done anything he's fairly safe. Even Root was only average 40-ish when opening, compared to 50-ish at 4.

Maybe it's time Root/Cook took the game by the horns and said they'll bat the first session each time.

Dude playing for Surrey scored a hundred today.
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