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Re: England Vs India Test Matches
« Reply #1515 on: September 08, 2018, 07:05:25 AM »

Root shouldn’t be captain I’m afraid. He has forgotten how to score big runs, while not being able to figure out captaincy. He’s had his turn. But the little cherub face fits.
Hey Butler in- he can captain from 5 or 6.

My team for winter tour:

R. Burns
Denly (leggies)
Bell
Root
Butler (c)
Stokes
Bairstow
Ali
Curran
Anderson
Not broad- Quickee- Tongue?

Nice yes it’s a bit on the mature side..Our all rounders mean only 4 specialist batsmen..
What do you think? Tempted to rest Anderson too and have a look at Coad or someone else..
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Re: England Vs India Test Matches
« Reply #1516 on: September 08, 2018, 07:06:05 AM »

Also tempted to give Hildreth a go!
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Re: England Vs India Test Matches
« Reply #1517 on: September 08, 2018, 07:20:00 AM »

Root shouldn’t be captain I’m afraid. He has forgotten how to score big runs, while not being able to figure out captaincy. He’s had his turn. But the little cherub face fits.
Hey Butler in- he can captain from 5 or 6.

My team for winter tour:

R. Burns
Denly (leggies)
Bell
Root
Butler (c)
Stokes
Bairstow
Ali
Curran
Anderson
Not broad- Quickee- Tongue?

Nice yes it’s a bit on the mature side..Our all rounders mean only 4 specialist batsmen..
What do you think? Tempted to rest Anderson too and have a look at Coad or someone else..

I think if someone told Anderson he was being rested he'd give a pretty swift response. He is currently playing in a dead rubber match dont forget

Coad in Sri Lanka? Have you ever seen him bowl? Definitely suited to the typical green championship wicket not a Colombo dust bowl. Plus hes been injured all season

That 11th spot should be an extra spinner, probably Leach, and then it doesnt look too bad a team. Although I'd prefer some reverse swing to Currans conventional in those conditions no one available comes to mind

I wouldnt mind Bell at 3 but I dont think the selectors will go for it. Livingstone would have had a great shout if he stayed fit having smashed it there with the Lions last year. I would also move Stokes above Butler to 5
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Re: England Vs India Test Matches
« Reply #1518 on: September 08, 2018, 08:33:38 AM »

I don't get the argument for Denly at 3. His runs don't show he should bat at 3 above hildreth or Vince or bell and its huge risk taking him as a leggie. Leach should be picked ahead of him.
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Re: England Vs India Test Matches
« Reply #1519 on: September 08, 2018, 08:40:28 AM »

I don't get the argument for Denly at 3. His runs don't show he should bat at 3 above hildreth or Vince or bell and its huge risk taking him as a leggie. Leach should be picked ahead of him.
Not sure I totally get it either, but... Hildreth doesn't bat at 3, Vince has repeatedly failed, Bell couldn't hack it at 3 when he was in his prime never mind at 36 and if Denly and Leach are competing for the same spot in the side then Ed Smith's lost his marbles completely.

What would be really handy is Liam Livingstone finding some red ball form after returning from injury.
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Re: England Vs India Test Matches
« Reply #1520 on: September 08, 2018, 09:02:43 AM »

I think if someone told Anderson he was being rested he'd give a pretty swift response. He is currently playing in a dead rubber match dont forget

Coad in Sri Lanka? Have you ever seen him bowl? Definitely suited to the typical green championship wicket not a Colombo dust bowl. Plus hes been injured all season

That 11th spot should be an extra spinner, probably Leach, and then it doesnt look too bad a team. Although I'd prefer some reverse swing to Currans conventional in those conditions no one available comes to mind

I wouldnt mind Bell at 3 but I dont think the selectors will go for it. Livingstone would have had a great shout if he stayed fit having smashed it there with the Lions last year. I would also move Stokes above Butler to 5

Fair points. I’m not sure either Stokes or Butler is a five,but one has to go there I guess. Poor shout from me about Coad,can you see we are getting desperate and clutching at straws. If I was a county pro batter right now with international ambitions, I would open or bat 3. If you can bat there you can bat anywhere. I’d be tempted with Vince again..what did Bell average at 3-Any hundreds? I’m not sure they will go back to him though. Completely forgot about the second spinner.. I like Leach.
Rashid- they pick him but Root has done the same muppets thing that all England skippers do- and show no faith in leggies. Poor handling yet again, like a broken record. And don’t come back with the argument that he’s not good enough, because if you do you miss the point and don’t have a scoobie!
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Re: England Vs India Test Matches
« Reply #1521 on: September 08, 2018, 09:19:18 AM »

I'm dying at Moeen's press conference after stumps yesterday.

"When I went in to tea the guys were calling me Geoffrey Boycott but then they came in to bat they played and missed their first ball so I was pretty happy with that"

 :D :D :D :D
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Re: England Vs India Test Matches
« Reply #1522 on: September 08, 2018, 09:31:47 AM »

To be fair to Boycott, Moeen probably played and missed more yesterday than Boycs would in a season.  He wasn't actually trying to hit the ball most of the time.

Moeen I thought rode his luck a little, but he hung about and was rewarded for it.  Lesson for others.  Surely now a shoe-in at 3 for the winter?  Or does Vince get another crack?
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Re: England Vs India Test Matches
« Reply #1523 on: September 08, 2018, 11:12:12 AM »

England have a decent score here. Can’t see India getting 150
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Re: England Vs India Test Matches
« Reply #1524 on: September 08, 2018, 11:19:28 AM »

I’ve banged on long enough about batting test match time despite being classed as a one day player
Butler is doing brilliantly for us, it’s great to see how he has played this series
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Re: England Vs India Test Matches
« Reply #1525 on: September 08, 2018, 11:33:08 AM »

Fifty for buttler!!

86 balls so not quite a swashbuckling one.

India haven’t bowled as well this morning as they did yesterday.
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Re: England Vs India Test Matches
« Reply #1526 on: September 08, 2018, 12:57:06 PM »

Excellent knock by Broad in his partnership with Buttler
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Re: England Vs India Test Matches
« Reply #1527 on: September 08, 2018, 01:18:31 PM »

With his current form Buttler is being wasted way down the order. Instead of rescue act, he should be used to get the opposition on the back foot from the start. It's clearly a difference between par score of 300 plus as compared to a winning first innings total of 450 plus.
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Re: England Vs India Test Matches
« Reply #1528 on: September 08, 2018, 03:26:29 PM »

With his current form Buttler is being wasted way down the order. Instead of rescue act, he should be used to get the opposition on the back foot from the start. It's clearly a difference between par score of 300 plus as compared to a winning first innings total of 450 plus.

Problem is though is its a different game at the top of the order
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Re: England Vs India Test Matches
« Reply #1529 on: September 08, 2018, 05:05:51 PM »

Yeah, there's a risk of breaking something that's working. It's one thing making changes like that when the rest of the batting order is firing on all cylinders but I wouldn't experiment when England don't have any openers, have question marks over the #3 and numbers 4&5 are struggling for form.

Last thing England need is to lose the runs that Buttler and Curran have provided this summer.
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