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Johnny

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Re: England Vs India Test Matches
« Reply #1620 on: September 10, 2018, 04:34:17 PM »

Some awesome fishing going on in this thread 🎣🎣🎣🎣🎣
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« Reply #1621 on: September 10, 2018, 04:57:23 PM »

But he was absolutely crap last summer as well, his fielding is dog (No Swearing Please), he doesn't actually have a very good first class record, and he's visibly incompetent. Apparently he has a good attitude and takes getting out for low scores well - I'm not surprised, he's a (No Swearing Please) expert at it. There is absolutely nothing about him that suggests he will ever be an international standard cricketer.
Never say never
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Re: England Vs India Test Matches
« Reply #1622 on: September 10, 2018, 05:02:49 PM »

Genuine question.....

Yes I know he’s the series top scorer and has been a class above (thanks to malan for that drop)

But

Is kohli still quite loose outside off? Nicked off early here and seems to have been out caught behind quite a bit this series... can someone tell em how many time he’s been caught behind the wicket in this series?
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Re: England Vs India Test Matches
« Reply #1623 on: September 10, 2018, 05:35:53 PM »

Some proper good banter boyz fishing tonight. I'm off home now after £37 well spent, I shall crack open a beer for the Mr AN Cook the flat track bully who played against weak bowling attacks day in, day out
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Re: England Vs India Test Matches
« Reply #1624 on: September 10, 2018, 05:37:30 PM »

Is that bait...?
McGrath was brilliantly metronomic with line and length.
Anderson is technically way ahead with what he can do with the ball.
Damn. I bit.
If you want a like for like comparison it's Steyn vs Anderson. And it's still a no contest
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« Reply #1625 on: September 10, 2018, 06:07:02 PM »

If you want a like for like comparison it's Steyn vs Anderson. And it's still a no contest

You're right. Anderson is clearly the superior athlete as he doesn't break down every 3 games...
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Re: England Vs India Test Matches
« Reply #1626 on: September 10, 2018, 06:09:44 PM »

If you want a like for like comparison it's Steyn vs Anderson. And it's still a no contest

If Steyn wasn't made of glass with a tissue paper heart he'd have a chance of taking as many wickets as the great Anderson. Blame it on his soft upbringing in South Africa, notorious bottlers aplenty

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Re: England Vs India Test Matches
« Reply #1627 on: September 10, 2018, 06:12:30 PM »

If you want a like for like comparison it's Steyn vs Anderson. And it's still a no contest

I’m going to say it but overall when you compare every aspect that makes a top international bowler than I think Anderson is the better of the two.
Like it or not both Cook and Anderson are world class international players. Would they make it into an all time test team for some yes and others no but in there current career periods both are Legends and both will finish there career as in the top 5 or 10 ever in the history of the game so by definition a cricketing Legend.
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Re: England Vs India Test Matches
« Reply #1628 on: September 10, 2018, 06:41:10 PM »

You're right. Anderson is clearly the superior athlete as he doesn't break down every 3 games...
Or alternatively you need heart to bowl really fast eg 90mph. Anderson bowling dobbers at 80mph on raging green tops means less effort is expended. Easy logic really
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Re: England Vs India Test Matches
« Reply #1629 on: September 10, 2018, 06:48:39 PM »

I’m going to say it but overall when you compare every aspect that makes a top international bowler than I think Anderson is the better of the two.
Like it or not both Cook and Anderson are world class international players. Would they make it into an all time test team for some yes and others no but in there current career periods both are Legends and both will finish there career as in the top 5 or 10 ever in the history of the game so by definition a cricketing Legend.
Quantity over quality for both Cook and more so Anderson. Without the Duke ball, Anderson is average at best. Disappears in most overseas series. World class and great of the game are two totally different kettle of fish. Just because you score more than another doesn't make you the better player.

Shearer scored more PL goals than Henry, does that mean shearer is better than Henry? Most certainly not.
Bill Russell is an 11 time NBA champion, is he better than Michael Jordan? Again certainly not.
Schumacher has more wins and championships than Senna, again is Schumacher better than Senna? Not in a month of Sundays
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Re: England Vs India Test Matches
« Reply #1630 on: September 10, 2018, 06:53:23 PM »

Quantity over quality for both Cook and more so Anderson. Without the Duke ball, Anderson is average at best. Disappears in most overseas series. World class and great of the game are two totally different kettle of fish. Just because you score more than another doesn't make you the better player.

Shearer scored more PL goals than Henry, does that mean shearer is better than Henry? Most certainly not.
Bill Russell is an 11 time NBA champion, is he better than Michael Jordan? Again certainly not.
Schumacher has more wins and championships than Senna, again is Schumacher better than Senna? Not in a month of Sundays

ok you win, clearly Anderson is average at best as the soon to be highest wicket taking seamer ever, and if you played the same number of test matches you'd have 500+ wickets too. Cook is also average as the 5th highest run scorer of all time, and again if you had as many matches you'd be part of 4 ashes wins and score over 12400 runs too.

95% of cricket writers and experts are wrong too and have no idea what they are talking about rating Anderson and cook, how stupid they are!
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Re: England Vs India Test Matches
« Reply #1631 on: September 10, 2018, 06:59:07 PM »

The thing I admire most about Cook is that he hasn't been the most talented player in any side he's played in, yet has still managed to average 45 opening the batting and score over 12,000 runs (largely on green seamers), while facing some of the world's best Steyn, McGrath etc, (scoring a ton against the best of the best obvs McGrath :D in 06/07 while only 22 and in his first Ashes series). Being naturally talented should make it easier, so on the flip side Cooks lack of natural ability compared to others should make his achievements that much more impressive in my opinion!
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Re: England Vs India Test Matches
« Reply #1632 on: September 10, 2018, 07:03:00 PM »

ok you win, clearly Anderson is average at best as the soon to be highest wicket taking seamer ever, and if you played the same number of test matches you'd have 500+ wickets too. Cook is also average as the 5th highest run scorer of all time, and again if you had as many matches you'd be part of 4 ashes wins and score over 12400 runs too.

95% of cricket writers and experts are wrong too and have no idea what they are talking about rating Anderson and cook, how stupid they are!
Cricket writers that are British are irrelevant is international recognition. Cook gets some which is merited for his efforts in Ashes 2010-11 and India 2012 which are a feather in his cap.

Anderson gets little to no international recognition as he's a home town bully.
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Re: England Vs India Test Matches
« Reply #1633 on: September 10, 2018, 07:12:16 PM »

Cricket writers that are British are irrelevant is international recognition. Cook gets some which is merited for his efforts in Ashes 2010-11 and India 2012 which are a feather in his cap.

Anderson gets little to no international recognition as he's a home town bully.

a plethora of cricket writers that are not British have lauded Anderson as the best swing bowler of the modern era, I assume you are not British? because whenever the English cricket team is mentioned you pipe up and give (crap) reasons as to why people are "average"
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Re: England Vs India Test Matches
« Reply #1634 on: September 10, 2018, 07:14:09 PM »

a plethora of cricket writers that are not British have lauded Anderson as the best swing bowler of the modern era, I assume you are not British? because whenever the English cricket team is mentioned you pipe up and give (crap) reasons as to why people are "average"

Hes just full of what he’s spouting  ;)
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