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Re: England Vs India Test Matches
« Reply #1665 on: September 11, 2018, 08:53:52 AM »


England fans should really cherish the day as, looking at the new talent, I suspect days like these might just be an urban tale in the future.

That seems a bit strong, there's plenty of young talent in the side already (just none of it opening batsmen) but these things can change very quickly.
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Re: England Vs India Test Matches
« Reply #1666 on: September 11, 2018, 09:11:44 AM »

I think yesterday was the most enjoyable day I've ever had at cricket.

Best £37 I've spent all year, probably
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Re: England Vs India Test Matches
« Reply #1667 on: September 11, 2018, 09:16:06 AM »

I loved watching  Cook bat . He was one of those guys where you could watch him from the start of his innings and think 'he's not that pretty , technique wise' or 'he's not as talented as others' etc .Then , as his innings would progress, you'd get countless reminders of how far wrong you were for contemplating such things . He had his limitations , and for the most part , played beautifully within those limits. I wont ever forget his cut shot or shots off his pads . I won't ever forget him absolutely smashing us in the 2011 ashes series either.....he was the cause of so much aussie misery that season !
I like the way he conducted himself through his career , he seemed a good , decent , honest bloke . No fuss .
I always thought he was going to continue playing for years to come . He easily could have , if his heart was still in it. He seemed to be able to get himself up , mentally, for this test ....but maybe that's a one off , and only he knows if it has become too difficult to do that on a test to test basis now . Nonetheless,  part of me is thinking 'see, you can still do it , so dont retire ' , but if it has become a drain, or stressful, to prepare for test cricket then he is doing the right thing. He has left leaving the fans wanting more and giving them a reminder of the talent he is/was. He will be one of the few that get to reminisce about the end of their career and think they left on the right note.
Hope he goes gangbusters in  county cricket for the next few years .
Compliments to the Chef !!!!!

All good stuff but listening to Nasser  as Captain he could have spoke up to keep Peterson in his team.
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Re: England Vs India Test Matches
« Reply #1668 on: September 11, 2018, 09:43:46 AM »

All good stuff but listening to Nasser  as Captain he could have spoke up to keep Peterson in his team.

most of the forum seems to quote George Dobell and his articles as gospel, I actually like him myself.....Cooks role in the KP affair is slowly being revealed courtesy of Dobell and others.

Cook proposed the most sensible option at the time, the only option at the time which was workable, and yet bore the brunt of angry fans and some press guys intent on someone to blame....

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Re: England Vs India Test Matches
« Reply #1669 on: September 11, 2018, 10:17:10 AM »


England fans should really cherish the day as, looking at the new talent, I suspect days like these might just be an urban tale in the future.

What nonsense!
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Re: England Vs India Test Matches
« Reply #1670 on: September 11, 2018, 11:46:19 AM »

Am I missing something?

No Rashid to bowl at all in this innings yet, as certain other people get smacked around the park.

Is he injured?
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Re: England Vs India Test Matches
« Reply #1671 on: September 11, 2018, 11:58:47 AM »

Am I missing something?

No Rashid to bowl at all in this innings yet, as certain other people get smacked around the park.

Is he injured?
Rumour was before the series that Root didn't want him in the team. Given the amount he's bowled, particularly compared to Moeen, seems safe to say it was a good quality rumour! Will be interesting to see how selection goes over the winter with Leach to presumably join the squad for SL.
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Re: England Vs India Test Matches
« Reply #1672 on: September 11, 2018, 12:01:53 PM »

money for old rope this summer for Rashid, cash per overs bowled will be working out well !

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Re: England Vs India Test Matches
« Reply #1673 on: September 11, 2018, 12:07:01 PM »

Hate to disappoint mate but he is already joint 5th and about to to 4th in the list of most test wickets in the history of the game.

I’m sure some people have lost the plot and forgotten how cricket works, bowers take wickets and batsmen’s score runs to win games.
Cook is one of the most prolific run scorers in the history or test cricket
Anderson is one of the most prolific wicket takers and actually about to be the most prolific quick bowler in the history of the game.
So basically all time greats by definition

And that's the end of that

There is no argument against that

Is it though?

Again, this is the statement from Soulsman to which I took exception:

"both will finish there career as in the top 5 or 10 ever in the history of the game"

I didn't say Anderson was rubbish. I said the idea that he is one of the top 10 (or five!) greatest cricketers to ever live is nonsense.

He's not as good a bowler as Marshall, Ambrose, Walsh, Steyn, Donald, Pollock, Wasim, Lillee, Hadlee, Imran, Waqar and that's ten or eleven off the top of my head. That's ten or eleven better quick bowlers without going back through "the history of the game" and just guys that I remember watching.

There is much to admire about James Anderson, including some of the things that haters use to drag him down like his incredible fitness and longevity which is remarkable for a quick bowler along with the way that he has continued to evolve and improve through his career. There aren't many that have kept on picking up new skills in the second half of their career the way Anderson has and he's absolutely a very skilful and intelligent bowler.

He's just not one of the top 10 quicks to ever play the game and you can point to the wickets column all you like but it doesn't change that. Unless you're also going to tell me that Zaheer Khan is better than Joel Garner because he's got loads more wickets, five-fers and ten wickets in a match which Big Bird never did?

(I'm going to whisper this but Darren Gough was better than Anderson as well)

Cook's still a bloody hero though and is absolutely one of the greatest.
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Re: England Vs India Test Matches
« Reply #1674 on: September 11, 2018, 12:07:48 PM »

Am I missing something?

No Rashid to bowl at all in this innings yet, as certain other people get smacked around the park.

Is he injured?

No, he's just rubbish. Unless you're bowling spin from both ends there's no sensible reason you wouldn't just bowl Moeen instead.
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Re: England Vs India Test Matches
« Reply #1675 on: September 11, 2018, 12:14:46 PM »


England fans should really cherish the day as, looking at the new talent, I suspect days like these might just be an urban tale in the future.

I've heard this from too many fan bases to count and the doom and gloom is never that bad. Wait till Woakes is fit again next summer and takes the new ball. Even seniorplayer will be purring with delight!
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Re: England Vs India Test Matches
« Reply #1676 on: September 11, 2018, 12:29:47 PM »

Who reckons cook will get a bowl if they’re 9 down before tea?
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Re: England Vs India Test Matches
« Reply #1677 on: September 11, 2018, 12:39:22 PM »

Who reckons cook will get a bowl if they’re 9 down before tea?

I will be gutted if Cook doesn't get a chance to bowl at Ishant.
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Re: England Vs India Test Matches
« Reply #1678 on: September 11, 2018, 12:54:18 PM »

Rashid has bowled 73 overs this entire series. Jadeja has bowled 77 overs in one game.
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Re: England Vs India Test Matches
« Reply #1679 on: September 11, 2018, 01:51:31 PM »

Rashid bowling pies on a day 5 wicket. Root rather bowl himself
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