Topic: England Vs India Test Matches (Read 162007 times)

Big Mac · « **Reply #1710 on:** September 11, 2018, 04:27:11 PM »

Kudos to Anderson for refusing to go past McGrath because he doesn't want to take the spotlight away from Cook. What a mate.

LEACHY48 · « **Reply #1711 on:** September 11, 2018, 04:27:49 PM »

JIMMY JIMMY JIMMY ANDERSON!

Big Mac · « **Reply #1712 on:** September 11, 2018, 04:27:53 PM »

I take it back, what a selfish git

rickjames · « **Reply #1713 on:** September 11, 2018, 04:29:03 PM »

Jimmy!

Kulli · « **Reply #1714 on:** September 11, 2018, 05:16:56 PM »

Quote from: brokenbat on September 11, 2018, 03:53:27 PM

Rash is is an attacking leg spinner. He will always concede runs, but will also take wickets. Most captains don�t know how to deal with that (they want �control�), but Root is especially bad.

not many points on this series where we�ve had enough on the board to be able to bowl Tashid when he�s going at 5 an over.

edge · « **Reply #1715 on:** September 11, 2018, 05:30:29 PM »

Quote from: brokenbat on September 11, 2018, 04:27:06 PM

Guys with as much variety as rashid are not the �put it on the spot� type. Leg spinners always lack accuracy (Warne was an aberration and a freak of nature)

For sure leggies are less accurate generally but that's because bowling legspin's more difficult, not because legspinners are all rabid wicket hunters. More accuracy makes you a better bowler - whether you're trying to get wickets, contain, defend, anything. All very well saying 'Oh Rashid is an attacking legspinner so we can't expect him to be consistent' because all those classic test match spinner's wickets you get when one pops up to the man under the lid are difficult to take when the man who would be under the lid is at deep cow. Maybe we'll see Rashid come good in Sri Lanka, but this series hasn't shown anything different from when he's played tests before - at test level he's a second spinner at best sadly.

InternalTraining · « **Reply #1716 on:** September 11, 2018, 05:37:24 PM »

Cook is a very lucky man! Nothing inappropriate has happened during his last week as a Test cricketer. He leaves on a very high note.

Anderson is probably also mulling over his last series.

SOULMAN1012 · « **Reply #1717 on:** September 11, 2018, 05:51:11 PM »

Anderson is probably also mulling over his last series.
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Quite possibly after next summers Ashes series and quite possibly both himself and Broad at the end of that series

ppccopener · « **Reply #1718 on:** September 11, 2018, 06:44:15 PM »

Quote from: edge on September 11, 2018, 05:30:29 PM

For sure leggies are less accurate generally but that's because bowling legspin's more difficult, not because legspinners are all rabid wicket hunters. More accuracy makes you a better bowler - whether you're trying to get wickets, contain, defend, anything. All very well saying 'Oh Rashid is an attacking legspinner so we can't expect him to be consistent' because all those classic test match spinner's wickets you get when one pops up to the man under the lid are difficult to take when the man who would be under the lid is at deep cow. Maybe we'll see Rashid come good in Sri Lanka, but this series hasn't shown anything different from when he's played tests before - at test level he's a second spinner at best sadly.

If you watch a certain 'debate' the resident grumpy old player is saying unless you consistently hit 400 ....and I presume then have fielders around the bat.....a leg spinner who gives away runs(they all do Warne was just a one off ) is just a luxury and two spinners is not needed in this Country.

It's hard to judge Rashid on this series he has hardly bowled on a wearing pitch the definition of 'attacking spinner' is indeed debatable as you point out...

Would Panesar and Swann and Giles all be attacking spinners landing it in the right place or a worn pitch? Seems like a yes to that to me....

smilley792 · « **Reply #1719 on:** September 11, 2018, 06:50:00 PM »

Sam Curran man of the series!!

Baffling they left him out for that one game. His batting often seemed to be the difference and he had a knack off taking important wickets and breakthroughs.

Hope he does well in Sri Lanka...... if he can get a game. If we are playing 3 spinners, anderson, broad and stokes as a batsmen and third seamer, where does he fit in??

SOULMAN1012 · « **Reply #1720 on:** September 11, 2018, 07:04:08 PM »

Quote from: smilley792 on September 11, 2018, 06:50:00 PM

Sam Curran man of the series!!

Baffling they left him out for that one game. His batting often seemed to be the difference and he had a knack off taking important wickets and breakthroughs.

Hope he does well in Sri Lanka...... if he can get a game. If we are playing 3 spinners, anderson, broad and stokes as a batsmen and third seamer, where does he fit in??

If you look at what Australia did to us in the last ashes series there main bowling unit, Starc, Hazelwood and Cummins all had a good long rest ( I believe some injury related I believe) there is some logic to resting Anderson and broad for Sri Lanka after a hard summer. Now I doubt that would happen as I suspect both will want to play and England do not seem to rest players but it would give a great chance to see next generation such as Sam Curran, Ollie Pope, Burns, Bess front and not so sure what�s in the young and upcoming quick bowling department as well. In addition you retain the likes of Jennings, Butler, Rashid,

Overall our young guns have done well

SD · « **Reply #1721 on:** September 11, 2018, 07:40:17 PM »

Strange to see criticism of Rashid. Given the limited opportunities he had, he took his wickets at a better average and strike rate than both Ashwin and Jadega whilst going at 3 1/2 an over which seems pretty solid to me. Fitness permitting , a shoe in for the winter

Big Mac · « **Reply #1722 on:** September 11, 2018, 07:49:48 PM »

Quote from: SOULMAN1012 on September 11, 2018, 07:04:08 PM

If you look at what Australia did to us in the last ashes series there main bowling unit, Starc, Hazelwood and Cummins all had a good long rest ( I believe some injury related I believe) there is some logic to resting Anderson and broad for Sri Lanka after a hard summer. Now I doubt that would happen as I suspect both will want to play and England do not seem to rest players but it would give a great chance to see next generation such as Sam Curran, Ollie Pope, Burns, Bess front and not so sure what�s in the young and upcoming quick bowling department as well. In addition you retain the likes of Jennings, Butler, Rashid,

Overall our young guns have done well

I wouldn't mind them rotating Anderson and Broad during the tour of Sri Lanka, depending on how the pitches over there behave and the resulting workload. They won't rest both but giving one of them a break at a time seems sensible.

ppccopener · « **Reply #1723 on:** September 11, 2018, 07:54:16 PM »

Quote from: smilley792 on September 11, 2018, 06:50:00 PM

Sam Curran man of the series!!

Baffling they left him out for that one game. His batting often seemed to be the difference and he had a knack off taking important wickets and breakthroughs.

Hope he does well in Sri Lanka...... if he can get a game. If we are playing 3 spinners, anderson, broad and stokes as a batsmen and third seamer, where does he fit in??

Up the batting order according g to some pundits. As high as 3 or 5...

hammersjr · « **Reply #1724 on:** September 11, 2018, 08:04:23 PM »

I do hope Jimmy doesn�t retire for a long, long time

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