Topic: Ben Stokes Trial (Read 21540 times)

northernboy1987 · « **Reply #120 on:** August 16, 2018, 07:47:02 AM »

Quote from: FattusCattus on August 16, 2018, 07:23:19 AM

Whilst I am firmly in the 'didn't like what Stokes did' camp, and think he's been a total pr*ck for being out drinking that late....

Michael Vaughan really does say the things that don;t need to be said doesn't he? https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/cricket/45203186

Michael Vaughan in "Intentionally controversial and abrasive comment" shocker.

FattusCattus · « **Reply #121 on:** August 16, 2018, 07:53:26 AM »

Trouble is, he's actually becoming boring by always trying to poke a reaction.

ppccopener · « **Reply #122 on:** August 16, 2018, 07:56:29 AM »

the two gays guys are in the press now thanking Stokes for getting involved

whatever the truth of it the case is over and how the ECB go now will be interesting

I suspect stokes and hales will face some sort of sanction as mentioned regarding their contracts. with stokes I reckon the ECB will also offer some sort of help

he is a player that is right on the edge, he clearly is combustable but their are responsibilities that go with being an England player

I don't like Vaughan either but I do agree with part of what he said ''hope Stokes doesn't say I told you so and looks at his behaviour''

Vaughan is right about that in my opinion

petehosk · « **Reply #123 on:** August 16, 2018, 08:27:01 AM »

Quote from: Seniorplayer on August 15, 2018, 04:18:59 PM

You know what that they say about contracts of Employment if it's not written it does count I should know having written hundreds

What software do you use when you write these contracts? Does it have auto-correct for punctuation?

Seniorplayer · « **Reply #124 on:** August 16, 2018, 08:44:52 AM »

I'll ask my secretary

justnotcricket86 · « **Reply #125 on:** August 16, 2018, 10:34:21 AM »

Meanwhile, Cipriani gets charged with 5 counts (including resisting arrest and assault on a police officer) and entered a guilty plea when he appeared in court this morning.

�2000 fine & �250 compensation - case closed.

Funny old world isn't it

northernboy1987 · « **Reply #126 on:** August 16, 2018, 11:45:47 AM »

Quote from: justnotcricket86 on August 16, 2018, 10:34:21 AM

Meanwhile, Cipriani gets charged with 5 counts (including resisting arrest and assault on a police officer) and entered a guilty plea when he appeared in court this morning.

�2000 fine & �250 compensation - case closed.

Funny old world isn't it

I wonder if CustomBalls forum is debating it as much as we are

ppccopener · « **Reply #127 on:** August 16, 2018, 12:08:33 PM »

don't recall another cricketer in recent memory getting in a scrape that's probably why so many of us are interested in the case

interesting from Bayliss just now who will encourage Ben to make a public apology...

you would hope Stokes has learnt something from the last few weeks. innocent yes....but you don't want to be appearing in Court very often for anything.

justnotcricket86 · « **Reply #128 on:** August 16, 2018, 12:18:57 PM »

Quote from: northernboy1987 on August 16, 2018, 11:45:47 AM

I wonder if CustomBalls forum is debating it as much as we are

Did you hear what Cips said when he was arrested?

"These wrists are gold, loosen these cuffs"

I sh*it you not. Glad he's gone to Gloucester and not our problem anymore

JTtaylor145 · « **Reply #129 on:** August 16, 2018, 12:42:52 PM »

Quote from: Seniorplayer on August 15, 2018, 04:18:59 PM

You know what that they say about contracts of Employment if it's not written it does count I should know having written hundreds

Not strictly true @Seniorplayer there are 'express' and 'implied' terms of the employment contract. The implied term in the case is that as a England Cricketer you won't behave in such a manner as to bring the game into disrepute by behaving like a burk and getting drunk and being caught on camera. Implied being so bleeding obvious you don't need to express it in an individuals terms and conditions of service.

#DowhatWoakseywoulddo

Seniorplayer · « **Reply #130 on:** August 16, 2018, 02:03:52 PM »

Quote from: JTtaylor145 on August 16, 2018, 12:42:52 PM

Not strictly true @Seniorplayer there are 'express' and 'implied' terms of the employment contract. The implied term in the case is that as a England Cricketer you won't behave in such a manner as to bring the game into disrepute by behaving like a burk and getting drunk and being caught on camera. Implied being so bleeding obvious you don't need to express it in an individuals terms and conditions of service.

#DowhatWoakseywoulddo

I don't disagree but if it's written it reduces the argument prefer things written rather than an assumption.

edge · « **Reply #131 on:** August 16, 2018, 05:23:14 PM »

Dunno about some of you lot, but I reckon the ECB might have access to some quite good employment and contract lawyers... seems fairly safe to say that if the ECB are taking them to a disciplinary committee for bringing the game into disrepute then there's probably a clause in there about bringing the game into disrepute!

ppccopener · « **Reply #132 on:** August 16, 2018, 05:30:21 PM »

Quote from: edge on August 16, 2018, 05:23:14 PM

Dunno about some of you lot, but I reckon the ECB might have access to some quite good employment and contract lawyers... seems fairly safe to say that if the ECB are taking them to a disciplinary committee for bringing the game into disrepute then there's probably a clause in there about bringing the game into disrepute!

Yes no doubt...it's how the ecb deal with it from here. Bayliss saying today Stokes will make a public apology....I don't think he would of said that unless one is forthcoming soon.

Stokes has lost a 200 grand or something contract and missed the Ashes. Personally I think he will have to undergo some behaviour management led by the ecb and get a fine

I could be completely wrong but I can't see any ban from playing-he has already served that -so what's left?

If he lost his central contract he could still be selected for England...that would seem harsh but might be possible....but would the ecb do that? I can't see it

He has been found innocent after all, very different from being found guilty

KettonJake · « **Reply #133 on:** August 16, 2018, 05:55:00 PM »

If the ECB were going to do anything significant they wouldn�t have allowed him to be called up to the squad as soon as the verdict was announced

SD · « **Reply #134 on:** August 16, 2018, 05:56:13 PM »

Quote from: ppccopener on August 16, 2018, 12:08:33 PM

don't recall another cricketer in recent memory getting in a scrape that's probably why so many of us are interested in the case

interesting from Bayliss just now who will encourage Ben to make a public apology...

you would hope Stokes has learnt something from the last few weeks. innocent yes....but you don't want to be appearing in Court very often for anything.

It would be interesting to see how some of Beefy's antics would be reported in today's media

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