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Re: New AS Champ
« Reply #90 on: December 13, 2018, 04:12:21 PM »

So these bats are massively overdried, potentially zero moisture content, and most likely to split in half once you hit a cricket ball. 150 seems a bargain then

Not that I totally disagree with you; however, I think there is also a hit or a miss probability when it comes to splitting it. Bat could split due to being dry but chances of splitting are much hire when it's not pressed reasonable enough.

The bat which originally started this thread has been quite an extensively used in the last 4 months. At least 3 batsmen (friends) in my team use this bat in every innings. There are times when I wasn't able to play with it because the batsman on the other end was playing with it and he happened to be the top scorer of the season.  However, the bat is well alive and kicking some a$$ without any problem. The only thing got worn off is the grip - which I have changed.

 
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Re: New AS Champ
« Reply #91 on: December 13, 2018, 04:13:16 PM »


Problem here is people putting up unfair demands and want something that can not be acheived without doing something silly with the willow.

this aint their top grade at all.
Here is what i bought from them and for 20000pkr but difference is i did not ask them to give me 2lbs 6 oz bat with 40mm edges and 66mm spine and spine into the toe along with full profile.
Be the judge yourself, although i might not be the biggest fan of AS but defaming a brand without taking a deep look into other factors is unfair.



Yes, I have already acknowledged the underlined above.

Your bat looks pretty nice too.
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Re: New AS Champ
« Reply #92 on: December 13, 2018, 08:15:48 PM »

Is it full size @ozcfa ..?

Yes it is a proper SH size bat.
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Re: New AS Champ
« Reply #93 on: December 14, 2018, 06:08:23 AM »

Yes it is a proper SH size bat.

44mm edge
35mm toe centre
20mm toe edges
Zero concaving

No doubt it’s 2.11

I will probably ask cooper cricket here in Brissie to reduce some weight. Does someone has experience on reducing weight??? I it will be good for if it weighs 3 ounces less
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Re: New AS Champ
« Reply #94 on: December 14, 2018, 11:06:35 AM »

Mine's arrived, must say this thing really surprised me for the price I paid!

At $60, well worth it. 11-12 grains, with some quirky dark line right in the middle  :D

Heartwood on one side, 40+ mm edges with some concaving, feels a lot lighter than 2lb 9oz.

But boy does this thing ping! massive forgiving middle. Must say real soft pressing, so will require some knocking in. You will see seam marks when I bounced the ball, if you zoom in on the 1st pic.

I will oil it tonight, so may be will gain an Oz. If this thing lasts even a season, would be well worth it.







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Re: New AS Champ
« Reply #95 on: December 14, 2018, 11:26:48 AM »

Looks nice, it is a quality bat. These are best value bats. Based on past experiences, I reckon longevity of AS bats will be ok. The only concerning thing is that they have zero regard for customers specs.



Mine's arrived, must say this thing really surprised me for the price I paid!

At $60, well worth it. 11-12 grains, with some quirky dark line right in the middle  :D

Heartwood on one side, 40+ mm edges with some concaving, feels a lot lighter than 2lb 9oz.

But boy does this thing ping! massive forgiving middle. Must say real soft pressing, so will require some knocking in. You will see seam marks when I bounced the ball, if you zoom in on the 1st pic.

I will oil it tonight, so may be will gain an Oz. If this thing lasts even a season, would be well worth it.








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Re: New AS Champ
« Reply #96 on: December 14, 2018, 04:50:22 PM »

Mine is here as well, but the cleft does not look like a top end cleft.

I have dropped an email to them and awaiting for their response.

It is quite close to the specs I asked for baring the skinny round handle (I have started putting tape on it to bring it to desired shape), but quality for cleft is not good no way near a g1.

Will try to post pics later. 

https://i.postimg.cc/mrNj6cQK/IMG-20181213-WA0009.jpg
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Re: New AS Champ
« Reply #97 on: December 14, 2018, 05:17:34 PM »

Mine is here as well, but the cleft does not look like a top end cleft.

I have dropped an email to them and awaiting for there response.

It is quite close to the specs I asked for baring the skinny round handle (I have starting putting tape on it to bring it to desired shape), but quality for cleft is not good no way near a g1.

Will try to post pics later. 

https://i.postimg.cc/mrNj6cQK/IMG-20181213-WA0009.jpg
Looks pretty good considering $100 usd cost.
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Re: New AS Champ
« Reply #98 on: December 14, 2018, 06:56:59 PM »

I am not saying that its good or bad for that money, my point is this cleft does not look like a top end cleft.
I specifically asked for a cleft with no heartwood and as I said I think they did good job when it comes to the profile and specs.

They could have easily told me that they do not have a cleft that matches my requirements and we could have negotiated. And I requested for Pics multiple times.
As a consumer, I believe the maker/seller should have been truthful when it comes to online and international purchase, It's very similar to going to a tailor and asking for a blue jacket and he comes up with a black one, or one with a totally different size (Analogy is not straight but i guess you can get my point)
Then would you have been saying the same thing. They could have told this to me upfront that this cleft has a heartwood and we could have negotiated form there.

I guess this is a way how a good or a honest business works.   

 
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Re: New AS Champ
« Reply #99 on: December 14, 2018, 07:22:50 PM »

Looks pretty good considering $100 usd cost.
It looks like a G4 bat. Reasonable for $100 but I question whether it would have even been considered as an option if they weren't claiming these a 'top grade'

I agree the specs being requested are quite a lot, but if they can't meet that spec in a top grade bat then as said above, be honest about what you're selling.
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Re: New AS Champ
« Reply #100 on: December 14, 2018, 07:41:49 PM »

[It looks like a G4 bat. Reasonable for $100 but I question whether it would have even been considered as an option if they weren't claiming these a 'top grade'

I agree the specs being requested are quite a lot, but if they can't meet that spec in a top grade bat then as said above, be honest about what you're selling.]

Exactly my point, how can a company or a manufacturer with such credentials put their of best in the range for such an end product.
I am still awaiting their reply may be that's what they consider it Pro grade or low density I am still open for a conversation with them.

I do not understand why people are stuck with the cost here, Please try to understand they are marketing them as pro level or top of the line bats.

But I guess it's not that bad to be G4, but certainly not a G1
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Re: New AS Champ
« Reply #101 on: December 14, 2018, 08:18:39 PM »

Mine's arrived, must say this thing really surprised me for the price I paid!

At $60, well worth it. 11-12 grains, with some quirky dark line right in the middle  :D

Heartwood on one side, 40+ mm edges with some concaving, feels a lot lighter than 2lb 9oz.

But boy does this thing ping! massive forgiving middle. Must say real soft pressing, so will require some knocking in. You will see seam marks when I bounced the ball, if you zoom in on the 1st pic.

I will oil it tonight, so may be will gain an Oz. If this thing lasts even a season, would be well worth it.









lol -  at $60 if that's not a steal then I am not sure what else is.

That's an unreal deal !!  Wow !!
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Re: New AS Champ
« Reply #102 on: December 14, 2018, 08:19:11 PM »

It looks like a G4 bat. Reasonable for $100 but I question whether it would have even been considered as an option if they weren't claiming these a 'top grade'

I agree the specs being requested are quite a lot, but if they can't meet that spec in a top grade bat then as said above, be honest about what you're selling.
It all depends on how they grade their bats. Are they graded on performance or looks?
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Re: New AS Champ
« Reply #103 on: December 14, 2018, 08:23:16 PM »

[It looks like a G4 bat. Reasonable for $100 but I question whether it would have even been considered as an option if they weren't claiming these a 'top grade'

I agree the specs being requested are quite a lot, but if they can't meet that spec in a top grade bat then as said above, be honest about what you're selling.]

Exactly my point, how can a company or a manufacturer with such credentials put their of best in the range for such an end product.
I am still awaiting their reply may be that's what they consider it Pro grade or low density I am still open for a conversation with them.

I do not understand why people are stuck with the cost here, Please try to understand they are marketing them as pro level or top of the line bats.
It is not about cost but what I don’t understand is people expectations are unrealistic. Expecting 12-15 grains clean cleft for this cost is unrealistic. To me, these are good Bats for the price point.
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Re: New AS Champ
« Reply #104 on: December 14, 2018, 08:30:56 PM »

Looks pretty good considering $100 usd cost.

This is a good reminder, I just check my accounts and indeed I paid $100 as well.
Matter of fact $108.00  with $8 being the moneygram fee
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