Topic: GM Factory Visit (Read 51254 times)

Bats_Entertainment · « **Reply #90 on:** October 23, 2018, 01:48:07 PM »

Quote from: SOULMAN1012 on October 23, 2018, 01:19:20 PM

Exactly how I thought Gm and I know Salix grade, 1st is looks and cosmetics, once pressed each bat is tested before final shaping and grade and model is picked from that on each individual cleft

So plenty of potentially high performance willow is sifted out of the top grades on account of not being 'good looking' enough? Would you not agree that this is slightly at odds with what Edward said?

Novak · « **Reply #91 on:** October 23, 2018, 01:51:11 PM »

This is quite intersting

The two top grades at GM I believe have no heartwood at all
Mid that the criteria ?

The guys video and his comments on you tube suggest the lower grades have more moisture in the willow

Hence it doesn't perform as well early on

Does this mean The higher grades have less moisture and perform better ?

It's a bit of a minefield

Bats_Entertainment · « **Reply #92 on:** October 23, 2018, 01:58:23 PM »

Quote from: Novak on October 23, 2018, 01:51:11 PM

It's a bit of a minefield

To put it mildly.

Novak · « **Reply #93 on:** October 23, 2018, 02:01:18 PM »

Out of the UK for me longeavity is GM
Good service I believe too

I know toe tek is brilliant

Salix for just brilliant bats and finishing .

India for me there's only one and a member has reviewed the brilliant bat he received earlier last month.

Ignoring kippax but heard brilliant things about them

Bats_Entertainment · « **Reply #94 on:** October 23, 2018, 02:36:43 PM »

The Original near the top of the For Sale section has heartwood. Must have tapped up exceptionally well? A bargain for a GM lover?

edge · « **Reply #95 on:** October 23, 2018, 02:39:57 PM »

Quote from: Bats_Entertainment on October 23, 2018, 02:36:43 PM

The Original near the top of the For Sale section has heartwood. Must have tapped up exceptionally well? A bargain for a GM lover?

I think this sometimes - given most batmaker grade on looks and then adjust up/down for how they think it pings then perhaps we should all be seeking out the worst looking bats in any given grade!

Bats_Entertainment · « **Reply #96 on:** October 23, 2018, 03:56:34 PM »

The smaller manufacturers tend to be more honest in admitting their lower grade bats perform just as well, though. Some examples being H4L, Aldred and Red Ink. I prefer this kind of clarity, I think.

Tom · « **Reply #97 on:** October 23, 2018, 04:02:49 PM »

In my view, it's very very difficult to measure performance through a tapping-up test when it's multiple people doing it, how do you standardise the grading?

Saying "Our best performing bats cost the most" probably helps sell more top-end bats, though.

Novak · « **Reply #98 on:** October 23, 2018, 04:31:33 PM »

I can contest tapping a bat although is only one measure and not always reliable

Tapped up well but performed terrible from a very reputable batmaker

It seemed to absorb the speed of a ball and especially with fast balls
The ball had very little rebound but when you had time on slow bowlers was fine or on tapping up .

I'm not a believer in more expensive the better at all

Bats_Entertainment · « **Reply #99 on:** October 23, 2018, 04:37:00 PM »

Quote from: Tom on October 23, 2018, 04:02:49 PM

Saying "Our best performing bats cost the most" probably helps sell more top-end bats, though.

Probably. Or definitely.

The Kippax model is an interesting one; even if �300 is quite a steep entry point.

SLA · « **Reply #100 on:** October 23, 2018, 06:25:34 PM »

I think for 100 quid you should be able to expect a well made bat that looks fine, picks up well, doesn't crack the first time you use it and doesn't play like a complete plank.

Beyond that, you're paying for aestethics and branding. Any performance gain is pure luck. If you get a good one, hold onto it.

Bats_Entertainment · « **Reply #101 on:** October 23, 2018, 07:19:06 PM »

Though I personally don't like to buy a bat without feeling it in my hands first, there is certainly always plenty of value to had around the �100 mark on here.

edge · « **Reply #102 on:** October 23, 2018, 07:37:50 PM »

Quote from: DorsetDan on October 23, 2018, 04:14:14 PM

If you look closely at one of GM's own related white papers (admittedly from a while ago and a very small sample size) it had the lower end bats (808 from memory) out-performing the OLE's

That little table was a real gem, by far the most interesting bit of the whole paper!

prim0pyr0 · « **Reply #103 on:** October 23, 2018, 11:57:46 PM »

Quote from: SLA on October 23, 2018, 06:25:34 PM

I think for 100 quid you should be able to expect a well made bat that looks fine, picks up well, doesn't crack the first time you use it and doesn't play like a complete plank.
Handles change at some level too

Beyond that, you're paying for aestethics and branding. Any performance gain is pure luck. If you get a good one, hold onto it.

The player ones are generally bigger and thus made from lower density clefts, these likely have higher performance.

Cholrudee · « **Reply #104 on:** October 24, 2018, 02:28:27 AM »

Quote from: Bats_Entertainment on October 23, 2018, 07:19:06 PM

Though I personally don't like to buy a bat without feeling it in my hands first, there is certainly always plenty of value to had around the �100 mark on here.

Would you expect free knocking in, bat cover, anti scuff sheet, extra grip, 6 months warranty and shipping for your �100?

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