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Re: Grading - the great mystery
« Reply #45 on: October 25, 2018, 10:43:54 AM »
Quote from: Bats_Entertainment on October 25, 2018, 10:24:43 AM
This is boring. None of us are really any the wiser. How can they know exactly what a bat will look like if they grade on 'assessment of performance'?

Enough. Waste of time.

Or you’ve missed the point.... there are clearly more than one grade one in there so it’s safe to assume (according to gm methods) that an ole will put perform a signature le

Now we all know it’s doen to the pressing but that would explain things
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Re: Grading - the great mystery
« Reply #46 on: October 25, 2018, 10:54:56 AM »

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Re: Grading - the great mystery
« Reply #47 on: October 25, 2018, 11:04:11 AM »
So why do so many pros - including ones sponsored by GM - use bats that look exactly like their picture of an 808?
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Re: Grading - the great mystery
« Reply #48 on: October 25, 2018, 11:11:29 AM »
Quote from: Bats_Entertainment on October 25, 2018, 11:04:11 AM
So why do so many pros - including ones sponsored by GM - use bats that look exactly like their picture of an 808?
Personal preference, and happier to use anything that performs when they're not pay ing a premium for it.
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Re: Grading - the great mystery
« Reply #49 on: October 25, 2018, 11:14:10 AM »
So Original L.E is individually tested for performance - meaning they guarantee performance?
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Re: Grading - the great mystery
« Reply #50 on: October 25, 2018, 11:33:55 AM »
Quote from: Tom on October 25, 2018, 10:54:56 AM


I have to admit, if you showed me those 9 bats out of context and asked me to order them in order of quality of willow, I'd get them totally and utterly wrong. Probably in almost the exact wrong order if anything.
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Re: Grading - the great mystery
« Reply #51 on: October 25, 2018, 11:54:23 AM »
interesting that handle quality is different as well
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Re: Grading - the great mystery
« Reply #52 on: October 25, 2018, 12:05:38 PM »
Ok so I queried this months ago about handles

As I saw there was a difference in the handle quality from 808 to 909

Had confirmation from retailer there was no difference as they said they phoned GM

Now that's what I was told . Be keen to know of still the case this was earlier this year
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Re: Grading - the great mystery
« Reply #53 on: October 25, 2018, 12:19:42 PM »
GM 2017

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Re: Grading - the great mystery
« Reply #54 on: October 25, 2018, 12:28:50 PM »
Rather than focusing on GM, what's everyone's thoughts with other brands that only offer a single grade? Such as Kippax for example?
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Re: Grading - the great mystery
« Reply #55 on: October 25, 2018, 12:35:58 PM »
With your own extensive willow supply you can choose the best for your own bats and flog the rest to India
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Re: Grading - the great mystery
« Reply #56 on: October 25, 2018, 12:51:10 PM »
Is that what kippax do awesome

At least we get the good stuff

I like kippax
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Re: Grading - the great mystery
« Reply #57 on: October 25, 2018, 12:55:14 PM »
Quote from: mattw on October 25, 2018, 12:28:50 PM
Rather than focusing on GM, what's everyone's thoughts with other brands that only offer a single grade? Such as Kippax for example?

It's certainly an interesting approach, and the fact that with it they presumably state that they all perform equally, but people will always want the prettier ones if they get to pick themselves, so I don't know how the shift lower grade clefts other than by selling them to other makers.
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Re: Grading - the great mystery
« Reply #58 on: October 25, 2018, 02:05:43 PM »
Quote from: mattw on October 25, 2018, 12:28:50 PM
Rather than focusing on GM, what's everyone's thoughts with other brands that only offer a single grade? Such as Kippax for example?

It show's clear confidence in what they do, as all their bats are "players grade" rather than "grade 1", "grade 2" etc.

However, if you bought a £300 bat blind and it arrived with 5 grains and a load of blemishes on the face, or a butterfly stain would you feel like it was good value?

I can't help but feel "grading on performance" is a way of charging a premium for lower grade willow.
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Re: Grading - the great mystery
« Reply #59 on: October 25, 2018, 02:08:09 PM »
I personally think GM have got a lot to hide. They are clearly making the case that clean willow performs better when most of us, and many very capable batmakers, believe that not to be true.

Even Soulman, who currently seems to be GMs biggest fan, champions the cause of their lower end bats.
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