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Re: Australia vs India
« Reply #270 on: January 02, 2019, 11:21:51 AM »

Back to the cricket, India named a thirteen man squad for the fourth test. Ishant is out with a rib injury and Rohit has returned to India following the birth of his daughter.

Rather strangely Ashwin was reported to have 'failed a fitness test' yet two hours later he was deemed fit.

KL Rahul will open and Vihari back to 6. Rather strange they flew in Pandya yet he's not selected.

Pandya is there for the group pics and selfies  :D

KL Rahul is very lucky to get another chance given the abysmal form he is in.
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Re: Australia vs India
« Reply #271 on: January 02, 2019, 11:37:08 AM »

Personally I'd rather not see Warner play again as he seems a questionable individual at the best of times, but at international level you've got to play your best available players. I'd like to think the last year or so will have humbled him and he will return a changed man but I find it doubtful.

As for the Warner hand tape, I would have though that stuff like that would be done by a physio and perhaps be checked by the umpires randomly. I also remember Sachin having similar hand tapings throughout his career, sometimes people have sore hands and fingers. Just a thought.

And if Warner had suspected that he was being watched (which would be the only reason he wouldn't use his magic Ball tampering hand tape and do it himself) there would be no point handing it off to Cameron Bancroft when the blame would just come straight back to himself anyway, I'd hate to let logic get in the way of some spicy speculation but it seems like the anger towards Warner and Australia on here sometimes gets in the way of rational thought process.
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Re: Australia vs India
« Reply #272 on: January 02, 2019, 11:50:31 AM »

Personally I'd rather not see Warner play again as he seems a questionable individual at the best of times, but at international level you've got to play your best available players. I'd like to think the last year or so will have humbled him and he will return a changed man but I find it doubtful.

As for the Warner hand tape, I would have though that stuff like that would be done by a physio and perhaps be checked by the umpires randomly. I also remember Sachin having similar hand tapings throughout his career, sometimes people have sore hands and fingers. Just a thought.

And if Warner had suspected that he was being watched (which would be the only reason he wouldn't use his magic Ball tampering hand tape and do it himself) there would be no point handing it off to Cameron Bancroft when the blame would just come straight back to himself anyway, I'd hate to let logic get in the way of some spicy speculation but it seems like the anger towards Warner and Australia on here sometimes gets in the way of rational thought process.

Surely if you suspect you're being watched handing the task off to someone else is exactly what you'd do?
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Re: Australia vs India
« Reply #273 on: January 02, 2019, 12:00:13 PM »

Don’t think he wore the taping in Odi cricket (might be wrong)

Anyway Cummings puzzled as to why the Aussies can’t get the old ball off the straight
http://www.espncricinfo.com/story/_/id/25659651/pat-cummins-australia-puzzle-lack-old-ball-help
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Re: Australia vs India
« Reply #274 on: January 02, 2019, 02:37:42 PM »


And if Warner had suspected that he was being watched (which would be the only reason he wouldn't use his magic Ball tampering hand tape and do it himself) there would be no point handing it off to Cameron Bancroft when the blame would just come straight back to himself anyway, I'd hate to let logic get in the way of some spicy speculation but it seems like the anger towards Warner and Australia on here sometimes gets in the way of rational thought process.

It wasnt magic ball tampering hand tape. It was sandpaper that he was hiding in his hand tape. Sandpaper cut to perfect size to fit under the tape

This theory about Bancroft would definitely be a possibility for the average bloke. But David Warner is a very simple, primitive man, have you heard him try to speak? I honestly dont think any of those permutations ran through his head. '(No Swearing Please), ive been caught, pass the buck' is all that happened im afraid

I think when this all happened Australias first thought was to not ever have Warner back. Hes let them down a few times with his temper and behavoir. However, the media spin from CA recently has been more towards getting him back in. Obviously due to Australias poor batting performances since March they felt they couldn't just ignore a bloody good opening bat

Those Smith and Bancroft interviews have made that possibility alot more complicated

Anyway - off to the SCG tomorrow so hoping for India to bat first and knock up 500. In the members tomorrow and sitting with the India fans on day 2. Oooooo Ravi Jadejaaaaaaa
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Re: Australia vs India
« Reply #275 on: January 02, 2019, 06:22:07 PM »

 First thing I would do if I thought I was being watched would be to just stop all together, I'd imagine that would be most if not everyone's reaction.

Through of this, some of which I probably agree with to some extent, it's all speculation, I would imagine that once the news broke in SA about the ball tampering and then allegations about the ashes followed, every broadcaster would have gone over all the footage of the Aussies in the field through that series with a fine tooth comb, and if I remember correctly, the only thing they found was Bancroft  with a packet of sugar in his pocket after a tea break. If it was happening to the extent that everybody believes and if Warner is the simpleton that everyone claims, there would surely be some footage that proves this theory unequivocally.

Anywho, let's hope the SCG has a bit of life in it, hearing word that Finch and Marsh have been dumped for Labuschagne and Handscomb with Labuschagne to bat at 3..Joe Burns and Matt Wade would be hurting a bit right now I'd imagine.
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Re: Australia vs India
« Reply #276 on: January 02, 2019, 08:04:23 PM »



Anywho, let's hope the SCG has a bit of life in it, hearing word that Finch and Marsh have been dumped for Labuschagne and Handscomb with Labuschagne to bat at 3..Joe Burns and Matt Wade would be hurting a bit right now I'd imagine.

Read a strange article with quotes from Paine suggesting that Australia would be happy to pick Labuschagne as the 2nd spinner/all rounder IF India played Ashwin as their 2nd spinner. Seemed a bit reactive which is strange from the home team

Same article had a feature on Wade saying hes averaged 67 in Shield cricket since Australia dropped him. Id say he can feel very unluckly not to have got a game in the past year!
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Re: Australia vs India
« Reply #277 on: January 02, 2019, 08:33:56 PM »

Same article had a feature on Wade saying hes averaged 67 in Shield cricket since Australia dropped him. Id say he can feel very unluckly not to have got a game in the past year!

Given Wade bowls functional medium pace he has a good argument that he should have played the last test ahead of Marsh M...
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Re: Australia vs India
« Reply #278 on: January 02, 2019, 11:08:22 PM »

India won the toss and bat. Rahul and Kuldeep replace Rohit and Ishant.
Marnus and Handscombe replace Finch and Mitchell Marsh

India clearly played for the toss with 2 fast bowlers and 2 spinners
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Re: Australia vs India
« Reply #279 on: January 03, 2019, 01:29:28 AM »

Good 1st session, bit of everything. I think India have batted really well, pitch looks fairly lively

Currently feel like Ace Ventura when he was trapped in the Rhino
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Re: Australia vs India
« Reply #280 on: January 03, 2019, 09:22:14 AM »

Pujara having the series that will define his career. 3 hundreds in Australia no mean feat
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Re: Australia vs India
« Reply #281 on: January 03, 2019, 10:04:04 AM »

Its amazing how you nicely left out England and the various times they have cheated and have admitted to tampering the ball.


Valid question.

Given we’ve had over the last few years ..

Pakistan players spot fixing
South African players ball tampering
Indian players banned for match fixing
South African betting scams
Australian players banned for ball tampering


Add that to atherton, Gibbs and co etc etc

No team is clean and these are just the ones that have been caught
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Re: Australia vs India
« Reply #282 on: January 03, 2019, 10:07:29 AM »

I thought you said he was rubbish ;)
He's no Paul Collingwood  ;) but Pujara's turned the corner. No longer only a subcontinent specialist
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Re: Australia vs India
« Reply #283 on: January 03, 2019, 10:33:40 AM »

Its amazing how you nicely left out England and the various times they have cheated and have admitted to tampering the ball.
He did mention Athers though, and crucially stated that every team has been at it for years - which is absolutely true in terms of them finding creative ways to duff up a ball.  Not sure that taking actual sandpaper onto a pitch has happened all that often though.

On Pujara though, he's always been a top player in my eyes, fantastic powers of concentration.  Really pleased for him that he's managed to put a few scores together.
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Re: Australia vs India
« Reply #284 on: January 03, 2019, 01:53:03 PM »

Its amazing how you nicely left out England and the various times they have cheated and have admitted to tampering the ball.

Did you miss the bit about Athers or that every team is at it ??

Anyway, it’s an emotive subject where peoooe wither couldn’t care less about cheating so ignore it or get so enraged that their team does it or gets caught they become blinded.

Pujara.. what can you say.. isn’t the best player by a long way but boy does he know how to play test cricket. Leaves well and waits for he shits he wants to play. Literally every England player including root should watch, the notes and replicate
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