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Manormanic

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Re: England tour of West Indies
« Reply #240 on: January 24, 2019, 07:33:23 PM »

And the other side of that, yes, Jennings looked all at sea!
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« Reply #241 on: January 24, 2019, 07:40:14 PM »

So the commentators go to their usual excuse - lack of warm up matches! Happens so often with English commentators

No international side gets as much pre tour prep as England. It’s not an excuse - no other side uses it

I think it's a pretty legitimate concern. We played two non-FC 2-day games.
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« Reply #242 on: January 24, 2019, 08:01:32 PM »

I think it's a pretty legitimate concern. We played two non-FC 2-day games.
WICB offered us a proper 4 day first class match which we rejected as confirmed by atherton
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« Reply #243 on: January 24, 2019, 08:27:31 PM »

Yep  with that stance /setup of Burns there not a lot in defence behind the ball not ideal for an opening bat against extra bounce and pace.

I told you this was coming, before he'd even played.
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Re: England tour of West Indies
« Reply #244 on: January 24, 2019, 08:30:52 PM »

100 ball tournament, anyone?
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« Reply #245 on: January 24, 2019, 09:10:53 PM »

We really need to unearth the Pujara style 'over my dead body' style player to prevent these horrific collapses...better still try and get Pujara on loan for the rest of the series...
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« Reply #246 on: January 24, 2019, 09:14:46 PM »

Anyone else loving the look of Hetmyers SS pads and gloves? I’ve looked all over and not found them. Can the hive mind of CB find them??? Also the spikes he’s got on. What are they?? Puma??
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« Reply #247 on: January 24, 2019, 09:20:52 PM »

We really need to unearth the Pujara style 'over my dead body' style player to prevent these horrific collapses...better still try and get Pujara on loan for the rest of the series...

We had one, he broke his finger and got told to expand his game and had now been dropped from the lancs side
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Re: England tour of West Indies
« Reply #248 on: January 24, 2019, 10:07:58 PM »

We had one, he broke his finger and got told to expand his game and had now been dropped from the lancs side
Rather ironically Hameed's bloodline originates just a few miles from Pujara's. Similar in more ways than one...

Unfortunately don't see Hameed returning anytime soon. He's averaging 18 in his last 52 fc innings  :(
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« Reply #249 on: January 24, 2019, 10:30:47 PM »

We had one, he broke his finger and got told to expand his game and had now been dropped from the lancs side

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He got told he had to be more positive.. expand his game.. completely broke him
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« Reply #250 on: January 24, 2019, 10:41:14 PM »

We really need to unearth the Pujara style 'over my dead body' style player to prevent these horrific collapses...better still try and get Pujara on loan for the rest of the series...

You see, I think we dropped one. Someone earlier mentioned openers like Lyth and Stoneman who have never got another go. Lyth, no - I think he'd do okay at five or six but we have bucket loads of those -   but Stoneman managed to get to 50 a decent number of times. A couple of technical tweaks and he'd have done a job.
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Re: England tour of West Indies
« Reply #251 on: January 24, 2019, 10:56:55 PM »

Thought the West Indies made a mistake not enforcing the follow on.
This pitch could become die out and lose all pace - allowing England to chase a score down. Best conditions to bowl were today
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« Reply #252 on: January 24, 2019, 11:24:13 PM »

Thought the West Indies made a mistake not enforcing the follow on.
This pitch could become die out and lose all pace - allowing England to chase a score down. Best conditions to bowl were today

Nah. Englsnd have a old war horse and a injury prone bowler... put them back in and grind them into the dirt.. break them .. WI have collapsed so it’s not worked but if they made Anderson bowl another 25-30 overs and stokes.. one would break..

This is why test series can be interesting.. you can try to win a game but also play a longer tactical battle in ,emtally and physically grind a team down.. if they broke stokes.. or Anderson.. wtf would England have left
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Re: England tour of West Indies
« Reply #253 on: January 25, 2019, 12:20:27 AM »

Nah. Once they got 325 up having lost limited poles Jimmy and Sturkes would have disappeared from the attack.
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« Reply #254 on: January 25, 2019, 02:30:21 AM »

Pathetic from England.  Not 100% sure why the hell do you need 3 all rounders in the team.  I also think England team has entitlement problems.  If you get dropped make a stink about (Baristow and now it seems to be Broad) and promptly get selected or get special dispensation.  England went into the game with one genuine bowler in Anderson and everyone else is 2nd/3rd string bowler, with no chance of keeping a lid on scoring.

I do not know enough about Woakes but if Broad, Curran, Stone are ahead of him why the heck (use your imagination in select stronger 4 letter words) is England management not releasing him so he can go play somewhere else (Aus, NZ or SA) and get match practice, instead of carrying drinks.

England mgmt sure ruined Hameed's career.  The guy was one of the most exciting player coming through with proper game plan for test match, now he cannot even convince his county team  :( for a game.  It might be worth it for him to leave Lanc and maybe move to another county but which county.  Personally, I think he might benefit by going to Durham and go work with Collingwood, who made a career by playing within his means.

Is Collingwood part of the coaching team in WI?  If yes, can England draft him into the playing 11.  My money would be on him playing a lot better than majority of the current players.
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