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Re: IPL 2019
« Reply #105 on: March 26, 2019, 04:34:39 PM »
Quote from: DorsetDan on March 26, 2019, 03:02:21 PM
So what? Jos was lazy,

He was not. Look at the picture I posted earlier, he was moving with the bowler and expected him to deliver . He was in sync with the bowler but Ashwin tricked him.
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Re: IPL 2019
« Reply #106 on: March 26, 2019, 04:38:47 PM »
Quote from: InternalTraining on March 26, 2019, 04:34:39 PM
He was not. Look at the picture I posted earlier, he was moving with the bowler and expected him to deliver . He was in sync with the bowler but Ashwin tricked him.

There is a bunch of other photos of Ashwin bowling where Jos is out of his ground before the ball is released.

Se here - https://twitter.com/TheJoshya/status/1110403431364263936
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Re: IPL 2019
« Reply #107 on: March 26, 2019, 04:42:08 PM »
Mankadding aside, Delhi laboured to 147 off their 20 overs at the Kotla. Wicket is a bit indifferent. Delhi seem to place too much reliance on Pant. Almost expecting him to go nuts every innings.

Ishant bowling with proper wheels. Really improved has the big tree.
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Re: IPL 2019
« Reply #108 on: March 26, 2019, 04:43:35 PM »
Quote from: DorsetDan on March 26, 2019, 03:51:18 PM
I like the idea but it would be hugely disruptive to a bowler unless there is a bigger penalty for over stepping. You'd then have people "accidentally" overstepping to ruin the bowlers rhythm and it is yet another thing for a poor umpire to have to have an eye on

I think it would have to be monitored by a Hawkeye type machine, and '3rd umpired' - called after the completion of the delivery and shot. Then there would be no benefit to tactical overstepping, only costs. Therefore it really only works for the professional game I suppose.
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Re: IPL 2019
« Reply #109 on: March 26, 2019, 04:44:06 PM »
Quote from: Kulli on March 26, 2019, 04:38:47 PM
There is a bunch of other photos of Ashwin bowling where Jos is out of his ground before the ball is released.

Se here - https://twitter.com/TheJoshya/status/1110403431364263936

Two inches outside on these deliveries, Jos was clearly stealing the match. Horror!
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Re: IPL 2019
« Reply #110 on: March 26, 2019, 04:48:54 PM »
Quote from: InternalTraining on March 26, 2019, 04:44:06 PM
Two inches outside on these deliveries, Jos was clearly stealing the match. Horror!

It's either lazyness or trying to steal an head start, you can't have it both ways.
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Re: IPL 2019
« Reply #111 on: March 26, 2019, 04:53:33 PM »
https://twitter.com/mahadada/status/1110350455681544193

See also here where he was doing the same against a qucik, zero sympahy from me. As Dizzy said, 'you don't break the speed limit, you don't get a speeding ticket'.
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Re: IPL 2019
« Reply #112 on: March 26, 2019, 05:19:34 PM »
Quote from: InternalTraining on March 26, 2019, 04:44:06 PM
Two inches outside on these deliveries, Jos was clearly stealing the match. Horror!


I think this sums it up best: The MCC has also emphasised that the non-striker has to stay in the crease until the ball is released. "With TV now potentially ruling that a batsman has made his/her ground by millimetres, it seems wrong to allow them a head-start of sometimes several feet in setting off. So, the policy in the Law has not been changed but rather the outcome is being more strongly emphasised to avoid confusion."

http://www.espncricinfo.com/story/_/id/26362854/faq-mankading-ashwin-v-buttler-law-spirit

in a game of millimeters, two inches is a lot
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Re: IPL 2019
« Reply #113 on: March 26, 2019, 05:20:11 PM »
Im going to have to mute the tv if I have to hear KP commentate much longer
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Re: IPL 2019
« Reply #114 on: March 26, 2019, 05:24:08 PM »
Quote from: Kulli on March 26, 2019, 04:53:33 PM
https://twitter.com/mahadada/status/1110350455681544193


This is not proper evidence. No frame by frame showing what happened when.

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Re: IPL 2019
« Reply #115 on: March 26, 2019, 05:28:24 PM »
Quote from: brokenbat on March 26, 2019, 05:19:34 PM
I think this sums it up best: The MCC has also emphasised that the non-striker has to stay in the crease until the ball is released. "With TV now potentially ruling that a batsman has made his/her ground by millimetres, it seems wrong to allow them a head-start of sometimes several feet in setting off. So, the policy in the Law has not been changed but rather the outcome is being more strongly emphasised to avoid confusion."

http://www.espncricinfo.com/story/_/id/26362854/faq-mankading-ashwin-v-buttler-law-spirit

in a game of millimeters, two inches is a lot


Somebody forgot to send this memo to Morgan, Stokes, and others as they clearly don't want to partake in this ugly practice.

There is also an argument about the disruption to the flow of the game. Reason people invoke the "spirit" because the law is hard to enforce or doesn't fully do justice to the flow of the game.

You know, somebody gets mankaded in the WC 2019 final and we will hear a different kind of howling.

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Re: IPL 2019
« Reply #116 on: March 26, 2019, 05:59:00 PM »
Dhoni earning some sponsorship money here. Switches from his TON to BAS mid innings
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Re: IPL 2019
« Reply #117 on: March 26, 2019, 06:00:12 PM »
Dhoni switching from SS to BAS bats halfway through his innings, never seen someone use two different brands in the same innings double sponsorship money 💰
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Re: IPL 2019
« Reply #118 on: March 26, 2019, 06:10:17 PM »
I think the best way for the laws to deal with this is for the umpire to call a short run if the batsman leaves his crease before the ball is released.  That way, batsman don't benefit from leaving the crease early and we don't see the unpleasant sight of a bowler trying to deceive the non striker into thinking the ball has been released. 
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Re: IPL 2019
« Reply #119 on: March 26, 2019, 06:14:15 PM »
That switch of bat must’ve earned dhoni 20k. 10 min sponsorship slot for the bat maker at prime time
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