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Re: Don't feel like buying any other...
« Reply #15 on: February 28, 2019, 07:48:39 AM »
I am in the same boat.  My first Laver was a Butterfly, and I sold it to fund for another bat which I then sold to get a Signature.  I still miss that Butterfly bat, had the best bing out of all the bats I used so far.   

I would love to get my hands on another Butterfly, from B3 especially. What's the prices for these if anyone knows?
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Re: Don't feel like buying any other...
« Reply #16 on: February 28, 2019, 10:03:03 AM »
Having been on the forum for many years I also always used to buy G1+, Prp, LE or what ever you want to call it.

Over the last 3 seasons I have only bought G2,G3,G4 and even G5 bats and i can honestly say that in terms of performance there is no difference as with pick up. I have still be able to get great looking light weight decent sized bats through forum sponsors hand picking or through dealing direct with excellent bat makers.
A G5 cleft well pressed will play as well as a G1+ its all down to the bat makers skills.

If people can afford it then it’s your money and spend how you want, but with top end G1 bats costing in excess of £400 now i just cant warrant that when i can get 3/4 bats for that and they will perform as well and in some cases look as good as well
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Re: Don't feel like buying any other...
« Reply #17 on: February 28, 2019, 11:20:21 AM »
It's all about the willow, pressing and profile, obviously there are quality differences in various willows, to end are most likely to have extended middle, regardless of their profile, but lower grades, 3.4.5 are most likely not to have extended middles,
Extended middle is useful for those who like to pull and hook,
Otherwise most will be happy with 3.4.5 grades.
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Re: Don't feel like buying any other...
« Reply #18 on: February 28, 2019, 11:38:55 AM »
Quote from: AJ2014 on February 28, 2019, 11:20:21 AM
It's all about the willow, pressing and profile, obviously there are quality differences in various willows, to end are most likely to have extended middle, regardless of their profile, but lower grades, 3.4.5 are most likely not to have extended middles,
Extended middle is useful for those who like to pull and hook,
Otherwise most will be happy with 3.4.5 grades.

I don't see why the grade of willow will effect the size of the sweet spot.

You sound like a marketers dream  ;)
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Re: Don't feel like buying any other...
« Reply #19 on: February 28, 2019, 11:40:08 AM »
Quote from: AJ2014 on February 28, 2019, 11:20:21 AM
It's all about the willow, pressing and profile, obviously there are quality differences in various willows, to end are most likely to have extended middle, regardless of their profile, but lower grades, 3.4.5 are most likely not to have extended middles,
Extended middle is useful for those who like to pull and hook,
Otherwise most will be happy with 3.4.5 grades.
Most are happy with lower grades.
What you are saying is largely not true.
The best performing bat in Romida in leatherhead is pretty much the ugliest bat you have ever seen. It is also £280 which is why I didn't buy it.
It is basically vellum. But the performance on it is amazing.
Shane Watson famously used a 202 or something in a test match because it was brilliant...
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Re: Don't feel like buying any other...
« Reply #20 on: February 28, 2019, 11:47:59 AM »
Quote from: Buzz on February 28, 2019, 11:40:08 AM
Most are happy with lower grades.
What you are saying is largely not true.
The best performing bat in Romida in leatherhead is pretty much the ugliest bat you have ever seen. It is also £280 which is why I didn't buy it.
It is basically vellum. But the performance on it is amazing.
Shane Watson famously used a 202 or something in a test match because it was brilliant...

What is it? Got to love an ugly pinger, though maybe less so at 280 quid!
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Re: Don't feel like buying any other...
« Reply #21 on: February 28, 2019, 11:51:30 AM »
If 202 is good then what are we doing here?
That's a one off I guess, they must have adjusted to his specs
Or might have put those stickers on his request, that's called numerology for good luck, you know how batsmen are
« Last Edit: February 28, 2019, 11:54:05 AM by AJ2014 »
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Re: Don't feel like buying any other...
« Reply #22 on: February 28, 2019, 12:03:39 PM »
Quote from: AJ2014 on February 28, 2019, 11:51:30 AM
If 202 is good then what are we doing here?
That's a one off I guess, they must have adjusted to his specs
Or might have put those stickers on his request, that's called numerology for good luck, you know how batsmen are

I think the story was that they made him up one in a new shape in a lower grade to check he was happy with the pickup and balance. They were going to make him one up in a higher grade of willow but he said he was happy with the lower grade one and ended up using what was probably a 404 grade bat in a test match.

It's not really surprising as we all know that the cosmetics of the willow has little to do with performance.
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Re: Don't feel like buying any other...
« Reply #23 on: February 28, 2019, 12:27:08 PM »
Quote from: AJ2014 on February 28, 2019, 11:51:30 AM
If 202 is good then what are we doing here?

Lusting over bats with loads of grains and the latest stickers (neither of which have any effect on performance) and spouting a load of b***ocks mainly...
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Re: Don't feel like buying any other...
« Reply #24 on: February 28, 2019, 12:35:08 PM »
Love threads like this, you have to admire Watson for that I think, picked a bunch up, see which feel good, then bounce a ball on them to check for rebound and jobs a good un.

I don't give a hoot what a bat looks like, just that it feels nice and can be swung swiftly by me, and that the ball bounces off it well.  Totally agree that ultimately pressing and pickup are the most important thing.  There was a great thread on here not that long ago about each manufacturers pressing process, I would just pick a manufacturer I trust to press well, then pick the profile I like at the lowest grade, or maybe mid grade if I'm feeling flush.  Having played a few GM Signatures, I can't imagine ever wanting to spend more than that on a bat given the quality and performance they give you.
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Re: Don't feel like buying any other...
« Reply #25 on: February 28, 2019, 01:05:03 PM »
Quote from: stevat on February 28, 2019, 12:35:08 PM
Love threads like this, you have to admire Watson for that I think, picked a bunch up, see which feel good, then bounce a ball on them to check for rebound and jobs a good un.

I don't give a hoot what a bat looks like, just that it feels nice and can be swung swiftly by me, and that the ball bounces off it well.  Totally agree that ultimately pressing and pickup are the most important thing.  There was a great thread on here not that long ago about each manufacturers pressing process, I would just pick a manufacturer I trust to press well, then pick the profile I like at the lowest grade, or maybe mid grade if I'm feeling flush.  Having played a few GM Signatures, I can't imagine ever wanting to spend more than that on a bat given the quality and performance they give you.
Need to find that manufacturer pressing process, 🙂
Does anyone know who's using heaviest pressing machine?
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Re: Don't feel like buying any other...
« Reply #26 on: February 28, 2019, 01:16:48 PM »
Quote from: AJ2014 on February 28, 2019, 11:51:30 AM
If 202 is good then what are we doing here?
That's a one off I guess, they must have adjusted to his specs
Or might have put those stickers on his request, that's called numerology for good luck, you know how batsmen are

Custom bats don't need to be expensive, Aldred and B3 were making 100% custom Butterfly bats for a little over 100.
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Re: Don't feel like buying any other...
« Reply #27 on: February 28, 2019, 01:24:28 PM »
Quote from: AJ2014 on February 28, 2019, 11:51:30 AM
If 202 is good then what are we doing here?
That's a one off I guess, they must have adjusted to his specs
Or might have put those stickers on his request, that's called numerology for good luck, you know how batsmen are
Half of what you write doesnt make sense to me
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Re: Don't feel like buying any other...
« Reply #28 on: February 28, 2019, 01:35:49 PM »
Quote from: Kulli on February 28, 2019, 11:47:59 AM
What is it? Got to love an ugly pinger, though maybe less so at 280 quid!
It is a Keeley. Lovely shape, nice pick up and weight dreadful willow. Amazing ping.
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Re: Don't feel like buying any other...
« Reply #29 on: February 28, 2019, 01:47:46 PM »
Quote from: AJ2014 on February 28, 2019, 01:05:03 PM
Need to find that manufacturer pressing process, 🙂
Does anyone know who's using heaviest pressing machine?

Heaviest pressing machine?!
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