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Re: Gary Ballance
« Reply #30 on: November 05, 2021, 10:22:35 AM »

Double standards from ECB here - What Ballance and Ollie Robinson said may have been similar. Couple games ban for one, lifetime England ban for the other.

Partly to do with talent/lack of fast bowlers perhaps but certainly doesn't make it right

One holds hands up and admits faults, other doesn't but will be in the Ashes!

The circumstances are significantly different though. One posted some idiotic tweets, another used racial slurs directly to an Asian teammate. One was barely an adult, the other - going by the timeline - was a grown man who had been a professional cricketer for a good long while.
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Re: Gary Ballance
« Reply #31 on: November 05, 2021, 10:39:54 AM »

The circumstances are significantly different though. One posted some idiotic tweets, another used racial slurs directly to an Asian teammate. One was barely an adult, the other - going by the timeline - was a grown man who had been a professional cricketer for a good long while.

I don't think that makes any difference. He was 20 therefore he didn't know it was bad?? It wasn't just racist things Robinson said either
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Re: Gary Ballance
« Reply #32 on: November 05, 2021, 10:40:11 AM »

Imagine the storm they'd be if players from other counties started coming forward? It's not totally out of the question, is it?
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Re: Gary Ballance
« Reply #33 on: November 05, 2021, 11:54:28 AM »

I don't think that makes any difference. He was 20 therefore he didn't know it was bad?? It wasn't just racist things Robinson said either

I think it's quite a lot more common for 18/19/20 year olds to make serious errors of judgement about what is acceptable than it is for someone in their late 20s, yep.

I would also say the most pertinent difference is that Robinson posted tweets that he presumably thought were poor taste but private and not directly addressed to anyone. Ballance was actively directing racial slurs to Rafiq's face.
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Re: Gary Ballance
« Reply #34 on: November 05, 2021, 12:02:31 PM »

Michael Vaughan also being accused by Rana after denying it yesterday. 
I see a few more players getting outed
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Re: Gary Ballance
« Reply #35 on: November 05, 2021, 12:33:10 PM »

If a client came to me saying that there were reports of institutionalised racism within their organisation and asked for advice as to whether they should i. Investigate those reports without delay and take appropriate action against anyone found to have acted inappropriately or ii. Ignore the matter because it didn't fall under the grievance policy and hope that it all goes away, I would be advising them to take the first course of action

Which I haven't said the contrary, I believe things should be looked at and investigated.  I just said it was hard to make disciplinary sanctions stick to very historic issues outside of employment policies as, if you do go outside policy, you have a possible case on the opposite side. 
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