Topic: Alex hales (Read 30799 times)

six and out · « **Reply #75 on:** April 27, 2019, 08:15:54 AM »

Quote from: edge on April 27, 2019, 08:12:48 AM

@six and out this isn't an anti-doping test, it's for recreational drugs only. UKAD conducts anti-doping tests, not the ECB.

@edge so is it UKAD's start and end of season tests policy and the ECB don't do any?

I am interested to know because if that's the case then it's crazy just a different organisation.

csnew · « **Reply #76 on:** April 27, 2019, 08:19:04 AM »

ECB tried to cover this one up - wonder how many others they�ve covered up

edge · « **Reply #77 on:** April 27, 2019, 08:21:40 AM »

Quote from: six and out on April 27, 2019, 08:15:54 AM

@edge so is it UKAD's start and end of season tests policy and the ECB don't do any?

I am interested to know because if that's the case then it's crazy just a different organisation.

No, the ECB run these start/end hair tests as a player welfare thing. UKAD is the normal random testing type situation. Always wondered how much cricketers get tested mind, the cases are so rare! Russell, Warne, can't think of any others off the top of my head.

edge · « **Reply #78 on:** April 27, 2019, 08:29:04 AM »

Quote from: csnew on April 27, 2019, 08:19:04 AM

ECB tried to cover this one up - wonder how many others they�ve covered up

Wouldn't be much of a player welfare programme if they announced the test results to the papers every time would it! 🙈

six and out · « **Reply #79 on:** April 27, 2019, 08:41:48 AM »

Quote from: edge on April 27, 2019, 08:21:40 AM

No, the ECB run these start/end hair tests as a player welfare thing. UKAD is the normal random testing type situation. Always wondered how much cricketers get tested mind, the cases are so rare! Russell, Warne, can't think of any others off the top of my head.

Found this article by Lizzie Ammon -

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/75-of-cricketers-were-not-drug-tested-last-year-cjt9mg00t

mohawks94 · « **Reply #80 on:** April 27, 2019, 08:52:24 AM »

Quote from: hammersjr on April 27, 2019, 12:01:21 AM

Think that was Livermore not Huddlestone

Correct, my bad

ppccopener · « **Reply #81 on:** April 27, 2019, 12:33:40 PM »

The next step in this could well involve Ashley Giles. A combination of a strict disciplinarian and someone keen to make a name for himself.

He shot out Farbrace and Ramprakash pretty quick, Hales has had a chance and also got off the court case in Bristol -you wonder if Giles might think he deserves further punishment.

Seniorplayer · « **Reply #82 on:** April 27, 2019, 02:50:55 PM »

Quote from: ppccopener on April 27, 2019, 12:33:40 PM

The next step in this could well involve Ashley Giles. A combination of a strict disciplinarian and someone keen to make a name for himself.

He shot out Farbrace and Ramprakash pretty quick, Hales has had a chance and also got off the court case in Bristol -you wonder if Giles might think he deserves further punishment.

Exactly what does Giles want he's responsible for England's way forward

ppccopener · « **Reply #83 on:** April 27, 2019, 06:05:19 PM »

Quote from: Seniorplayer on April 27, 2019, 02:50:55 PM

Exactly what does Giles want he's responsible for England's way forward

Hard to say but being responsible for England�s way forward will include discipline as has been shown before under Strauss.

Complete guess here but my view is they could discuss whether having him in the final squad for the WC may distract from the overall aim of the team...

Hales simply on performance alone is a bit unlucky to be the spare batsman, in any other era he would be a first pick.
Balance that against bad publicity, perhaps some conflict with other players if you believe the rumours.

Could be wrong but I don�t think this is over yet

uknsaunders · « **Reply #84 on:** April 27, 2019, 09:01:38 PM »

Going off topic with the dreaded two letters - who thinks KP might have played for England again if Giles had been in charge?

ProCricketer1982 · « **Reply #85 on:** April 27, 2019, 09:24:40 PM »

Quote from: uknsaunders on April 27, 2019, 09:01:38 PM

Going off topic with the dreaded two letters - who thinks KP might have played for England again if Giles had been in charge?

Shouodnt have played for englsnd again after what he did to Strauss. The fact he was was weak by the ECB. ECB have shown nothing but Ill discipline and an unwillingness to maintain standards. Stokes and hakes in Bristol proves this again

ppccopener · « **Reply #86 on:** April 27, 2019, 10:01:05 PM »

You would have to look at the Strauss and flower relationship together as KP clashed mainly with Flower.

I was no fan of KP the person, admired his batting greatly.You would be an idiot not to acknowledge he was a different level in some series to the rest of our players.

Dedicated trainer and never caught out late drinking fighting or drug taking.

I think the answer to your question might be yes but over the head of Flower which may of affected the relationship.

I believe Flower and Strauss backed each other up at all times.

golders · « **Reply #87 on:** April 27, 2019, 10:15:26 PM »

This whole sorry saga is a reminder of the dangers of drugs, both recreational and alcohol. People will always want to experiment, especially young people. Difference is Hales is not a young 20 something anymore,spending his first big paycheck.
I have a feeling Hales is not particularly bright and this makes stupid decisions. Which is a shame as he is bloody talented.

SD · « **Reply #88 on:** April 27, 2019, 11:26:34 PM »

Quote from: uknsaunders on April 27, 2019, 09:01:38 PM

Going off topic with the dreaded two letters - who thinks KP might have played for England again if Giles had been in charge?

I think it would also have been dependent on who the captain was. Cook was frankly far too weak a person to stand up to the Swann, Prior, Broad, Anderson clique that ruled the dressing room at that time.

jamesisapayne · « **Reply #89 on:** April 28, 2019, 08:16:59 AM »

Quote from: SD on April 27, 2019, 11:26:34 PM

Cook was frankly far too weak a person to stand up to the Swann, Prior, Broad, Anderson clique that ruled the dressing room at that time.

What a bold statement to make!

Do you know that for sure? Were you there to have a first hand account of what went on?

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