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[Cholrudee]

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[SLA]

SLA you must be a politician of some kind with the way you answer a different question to the one anyone asks. First you turn a conversation on LBW problems into one about weight transfer, then when anyone engages with that you change the question to whether it's linear vs rotational. It's almost like you're not interested in the actual topic and just want an argument! Apropos of nothing, what is your opinion on Jimmy Anderson's bowling in overseas conditions?

On the contrary, buzz recommended leading with the head (bad advice likely to make the problem worse), Kez first brought up weight transfer, and then goodarmcindy asked a question about baseball that I was happy to answer. It's not me changing the topic.

If you're going to resort to your preferred personal insult approach, at least get it vaguely accurate, eh?

[enlightened]

Winchester anyone?

[SLA]

Not really an expert on this, and I definitely don't want to join the slanging match, but I found it quite difficult to 'lead with the head' at first. Only when someone suggested leading with the left shoulder going down and the head naturally following over the ball did I manage to get properly balanced on the drive shots. But I'm still not great at following a fast swinging ball unless I've somehow picked the delivery right from the bowler's hand.

Pointing the front shoulder at the ball as you move into your address position is a useful rule of thumb for aligning the bat path, yes.

[Buzz]

This thread reminds me of going to my local golf range.
The coach there has lots of people queuing up for lessons. And they come back every week. It is a great business.

[edge]

On the contrary, buzz recommended leading with the head (bad advice likely to make the problem worse), Kez first brought up weight transfer, and then goodarmcindy asked a question about baseball that I was happy to answer. It's not me changing the topic.

If you're going to resort to your preferred personal insult approach, at least get it vaguely accurate, eh?

Further illustrating the point really - exactly where did I insult you (or anyone else for that matter) personally? 🤔

[Buzz]

Pointing the front shoulder at the ball as you move into your address position is a useful rule of thumb for aligning the bat path, yes.

Very little difference between this and leading with your head. In fact the principle is the same.

[Kez]

Very little difference between this and leading with your head. In fact the principle is the same.

Exactly what I was just thinking... just a slightly different way of saying it...
Like it was said around 4 pages ago, use whatever terms/ language work for you/ your players.

[Psi]

Yes exactly. Good coaches find key phrases that work for particular players. This might mean highlighting something that's not strictly in the science, but enables the best mechanics to happen in the background. But I do wonder if other people had difficulty in leading with the head rather than pointing with the shoulder.

[SLA]

Further illustrating the point really - exactly where did I insult you (or anyone else for that matter) personally? 🤔

Apart from the bit where you accused me of being a dissembling politician? You gonna play innocent now?

[SLA]

Very little difference between this and leading with your head. In fact the principle is the same.

Nope. Completely different. Competent Batsmen don't lead with their heads, they do point their front shoulder. Leading is not pointing, shoulders are not heads.

[SLA]

Exactly what I was just thinking... just a slightly different way of saying it...
Like it was said around 4 pages ago, use whatever terms/ language work for you/ your players.

It's not though, it's totally different. Leading with the head is terrible, unscientific advice. Pointing the shoulder AS you are moving is entirely different.

[strang]

Mental to come back to this thread after just 24hrs and about 25 posts of fighting.
The thing I am going to take from all this is...

[Buzz]

I would love to know how you can lean into a shot with your shoulder but leaving your head behind.

[SLA]

I would love to know how you can lean into a shot with your shoulder but leaving your head behind.

That's a really daft comment that demonstrates nothing other than that your haven't actually read a single thing that has been explained to you.