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Mankad Video - out or not out?
« on: May 06, 2019, 04:55:42 PM »
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gmTyr_ioj28

Apologies struggling to make the link start in the right place but see ball 4.1 (-1:04:00 in the video) of the second innings the Ealing CC bowler mankads the Uxbridge CC batsman and runs off celebrating. The umpire gives it out with the captain saying he upholds his appeal before one of the Ealing players has a word with the skipper - out or not out?
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Re: Mankad Video - out or not out?
« Reply #1 on: May 06, 2019, 05:34:15 PM »
Technically as I interpret the laws it is out.
Quite naf though.

Also the ball before the batter ran down the pitch!
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Re: Mankad Video - out or not out?
« Reply #2 on: May 06, 2019, 05:41:00 PM »
Strictly speaking it's out but thankfully common sense prevailed and the batsman remained.
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Re: Mankad Video - out or not out?
« Reply #3 on: May 06, 2019, 06:27:01 PM »
My interpretation would be that it's a dead ball, as he has broken the wickets during his delivery action however hasn't released the ball (Stephen finn law). Had he released the ball it would have been a no ball, it certainly doesn't look like a deliberate mankad attempt
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Re: Mankad Video - out or not out?
« Reply #4 on: May 06, 2019, 06:49:12 PM »
It was definitely deliberate.  Personally seems like he’s in his delivery stride so can’t be out?
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Re: Mankad Video - out or not out?
« Reply #5 on: May 06, 2019, 07:00:38 PM »
Quote from: Howzat on May 06, 2019, 06:49:12 PM
It was definitely deliberate.  Personally seems like he’s in his delivery stride so can’t be out?
Law changed last year so that delivery stride no longer matters. It didn't look deliberate to me, looked like he got too close to the stumps, broke the wickets and so held the ball, then looked at the batsman realised he was out and celebrated
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Re: Mankad Video - out or not out?
« Reply #6 on: May 06, 2019, 07:49:45 PM »
Can you be run out off a no ball?
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Re: Mankad Video - out or not out?
« Reply #7 on: May 06, 2019, 08:11:46 PM »
It was deliberate. He told the batsman he had been practicing it!
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Re: Mankad Video - out or not out?
« Reply #8 on: May 06, 2019, 08:12:31 PM »
Quote from: LEACHY48 on May 06, 2019, 07:00:38 PM
Law changed last year so that delivery stride no longer matters. It didn't look deliberate to me, looked like he got too close to the stumps, broke the wickets and so held the ball, then looked at the batsman realised he was out and celebrated

Absolutely deliberate to my eyes
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Re: Mankad Video - out or not out?
« Reply #9 on: May 06, 2019, 08:54:26 PM »
It's out. Don't get it, why would it not be out?
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Re: Mankad Video - out or not out?
« Reply #10 on: May 06, 2019, 09:03:04 PM »
I wrongly thought if he was in delivery stride it couldn’t be out. Anyway personally I am with the people who go on about spirit of cricket... given that he is clearly a decent player who has played first class he probably could have got the wicket anyway... but equally don’t want to get everyone started on spirit of cricket debate again!!
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Re: Mankad Video - out or not out?
« Reply #11 on: May 06, 2019, 09:51:48 PM »
Under the laws I would say this is out but the right outcome was reached in the end.  Sadly this is the sort of imbecilic behaviour that the Ashwin incident in thr IPL has encouraged
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Re: Mankad Video - out or not out?
« Reply #12 on: May 07, 2019, 01:02:13 AM »
He dropped the ball as the whole field was tilted to the left  :D
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Re: Mankad Video - out or not out?
« Reply #13 on: May 07, 2019, 12:08:52 PM »
Either way its just poor in my opinion, watched a few minutes before this and cant see him stealing yards but camera angle may not be best for that, either way its poor in my opinion
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Re: Mankad Video - out or not out?
« Reply #14 on: May 07, 2019, 05:38:30 PM »


Bowler hasn't released the ball and the non-striker has stopped watching and started walking down the pitch.

Talk of imbecilic, poor, common sense etc. holds no water with me.

Stay behind the line until the ball has been released and then you don't have to resort to crying about the spirit of cricket because you were being a dozy git.

This is schoolboy stuff.
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