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Re: Englands Test Summer - IRE + AUS
« Reply #45 on: July 20, 2019, 12:12:19 AM »

Surprised there are such low expectations of the Aussie side. England don’t have the dominance in tests we have in one daters

Look at both bowling attacks over 5 matches and you might see a close series

Starc, hazlewood,Lyon and Cummins if they can all stay on the park and fit could do well in our conditions.

I'm not even sure Hazelwood will get a game, he has struggled in the A tour games and something tells me they will go with Pattinson's county experience and ability with the bat.
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« Reply #46 on: July 20, 2019, 09:33:40 AM »

I'm not even sure Hazelwood will get a game, he has struggled in the A tour games and something tells me they will go with Pattinson's county experience and ability with the bat.

Might they even learn from last time and use Siddle?
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Re: Englands Test Summer - IRE + AUS
« Reply #47 on: July 20, 2019, 02:45:42 PM »

This is going to be such an interesting match. Paine says it's not a test shoot out but it sure looks like it to me.

https://www.cricket.com.au/news/australia-ashes-tour-match-australia-a-brad-haddin-xii-graeme-hick-xii-tim-paine-travis-head/2019-07-20?mode=amp

Teams are below -

Hick XII: Joe Burns, Cameron Bancroft, Steve Smith, Peter Handscomb, Matthew Wade, Mitchell Marsh, Tim Paine (c, wk), Michael Neser, James Pattinson, Jackson Bird, Chris Tremain, Nathan Lyon

Haddin XII: David Warner, Marcus Harris, Kurtis Patterson, Travis Head (c), Marnus Labuschagne, Will Pucovski, Alex Carey (wk), Pat Cummins, Mitch Starc, Peter Siddle, Josh Hazlewood, Jon Holland.
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« Reply #48 on: July 20, 2019, 04:50:02 PM »

If it’s an ashes shootout for the Aussies, seems bizarre that Siddle is ahead of Pattinson in the pecking order.
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Re: Englands Test Summer - IRE + AUS
« Reply #49 on: July 20, 2019, 04:50:54 PM »

Might they even learn from last time and use Siddle?
Doubt Siddle will cause any concerns to England bowling at 78mph
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« Reply #50 on: July 20, 2019, 06:37:16 PM »

Doubt Siddle will cause any concerns to England bowling at 78mph

You've seen England's top order bat, right?
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Re: Englands Test Summer - IRE + AUS
« Reply #51 on: July 21, 2019, 09:36:16 AM »

Doubt Siddle will cause any concerns to England bowling at 78mph

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Re: Englands Test Summer - IRE + AUS
« Reply #52 on: July 21, 2019, 11:04:31 PM »

This is going to be such an interesting match. Paine says it's not a test shoot out but it sure looks like it to me.

https://www.cricket.com.au/news/australia-ashes-tour-match-australia-a-brad-haddin-xii-graeme-hick-xii-tim-paine-travis-head/2019-07-20?mode=amp

Teams are below -

Hick XII: Joe Burns, Cameron Bancroft, Steve Smith, Peter Handscomb, Matthew Wade, Mitchell Marsh, Tim Paine (c, wk), Michael Neser, James Pattinson, Jackson Bird, Chris Tremain, Nathan Lyon

Haddin XII: David Warner, Marcus Harris, Kurtis Patterson, Travis Head (c), Marnus Labuschagne, Will Pucovski, Alex Carey (wk), Pat Cummins, Mitch Starc, Peter Siddle, Josh Hazlewood, Jon Holland.

Seems a bit one sided to me, the Haddin XII has all the batsmen. The Hick team is 3 out all out with Smith, Wade and Paine the only three that know one end of a bat from the other. Should be interesting to see how it unfolds, I really like this as a warm up to the Ashes.
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Re: Englands Test Summer - IRE + AUS
« Reply #53 on: July 22, 2019, 01:43:42 AM »

Teams look evenly matched to me. Should be a good hard game. Want to see Wade back in the team.
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Re: Englands Test Summer - IRE + AUS
« Reply #54 on: July 22, 2019, 06:59:46 AM »

It is such an interesting way to warm up for an Ashes series. Have an 'A' Tour, which isn't really an 'A' Tour and is basically masquerading as the players that aren't playing in the World Cup getting time in the middle against the red Duke ball.

Then play a 1 off selection game against each other so you can control everything that happens rather than some crappy 3 day warm up against a  county 2nd XI.

When you think about the preparation we got in Australia this is ridiculous.

This Austrailian team I think are going to be one of the best prepared sides for a long long time.
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Re: Englands Test Summer - IRE + AUS
« Reply #55 on: July 22, 2019, 08:54:20 PM »

Think it's a great idea and use of the time over here. All building towards a very interesting series I'm sure. Can see it going either way
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Re: Englands Test Summer - IRE + AUS
« Reply #56 on: July 23, 2019, 09:37:09 AM »

Jimmy out for the game against Ireland. Probably rested as a precaution.
Means Broad will almost certainly play.
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Re: Englands Test Summer - IRE + AUS
« Reply #57 on: July 23, 2019, 09:59:27 AM »

Likely debuts for Stone and Gregory then? Batting order should be interesting, be like a club side with all the allrounders.
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Re: Englands Test Summer - IRE + AUS
« Reply #58 on: July 23, 2019, 10:58:24 AM »

Likely debuts for Stone and Gregory then? Batting order should be interesting, be like a club side with all the allrounders.

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First innings batting order: Burns, Roy, Denly, Root, Bairstow, Curran, Woakes, Ali, Gregory, Broad, Leach

Second innings, Well, Moeen got runs and Joe D played a poor shot, plus Woaksey wants to pop away on time so: Burns, Roy, Woakes, Root, Ali, Bairstow, Denly, Curran, Leach, Gregory, Broad.

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Re: Englands Test Summer - IRE + AUS
« Reply #59 on: July 23, 2019, 12:18:39 PM »

I am not sure why Australia would come in with low expectations to this series.  They look a better batting unit than England, particularly when England have no one established in any of the positions 1-3.  Obviously Australia's weakness against the moving ball and on pitches that you can't leave on length on will balance out the advantage but Austalia still look stronger.

Bowling wise, things should be very different to the last series in Australia.  I couldn't comprehend England picking a load of medium fast seamers who were cannon fodder in Australian conditions whilst Wood, Plunkett and Rashid who had the pace bounce and turn to be a genuine threat only played in the one day series.  England look like having a much more balanced attach this time round, although the fitness if Wood and of Archer is a blow.

From an Australian perspective, they haven't looked the same as a unit since Newlands.  When you see both the amount of reverse swing they got, and how early in the innings they got it I have no doubt that they cheated with the ball throughout that series.  Will be a big test for them.
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