Topic: England tour of New Zealand 2019/20 (Read 66467 times)

WalkingWicket37 · « **Reply #285 on:** November 29, 2019, 10:23:43 PM »

To say a reserve/part time keeper should be stood up to Curran is a ridiculous statement.

If anything you could say he doesn't get low in has stance so had to go down and forward instead of just going forward, but again it's harsh to pick holes in the technique of a back up gloveman who's only done it 5 times.

SouthpawMark · « **Reply #286 on:** November 29, 2019, 10:29:06 PM »

Quote from: WalkingWicket37 on November 29, 2019, 10:23:43 PM

To say a reserve/part time keeper should be stood up to Curran is a ridiculous statement.

If anything you could say he doesn't get low in has stance so had to go down and forward instead of just going forward, but again it's harsh to pick holes in the technique of a back up gloveman who's only done it 5 times.

Fair point.

A part time keeper shouldn�t be playing in a test match. It all goes back to England�s ridiculous selection policy. Actually, calling it a policy is giving it too much credit.

WalkingWicket37 · « **Reply #287 on:** November 29, 2019, 10:34:41 PM »

Quote from: SouthpawMark on November 29, 2019, 10:29:06 PM

Fair point.

A part time keeper shouldn�t be playing in a test match. It all goes back to England�s ridiculous selection policy. Actually, calling it a policy is giving it too much credit.

This hits the nail on the head.
Pope will get slated because of Smith's moronic approach to selection. Not taking a second keeper was always a risk, and this has backfired spectacularly.
Love him or loathe him, YJB was in New Zealand and was even on standby as cover for Denly. While he's in no way the answer you can't help feel extending his holiday in New Zealand wouldn't have been the worst move in the world. Hindsight, eh...

HellomynameisJ · « **Reply #288 on:** November 29, 2019, 10:38:24 PM »

It might be harsh, but he's playing test cricket. That was a drop, and he dropped it because he has poor technique. If you pick bits and pieces cricketers, you get rewarded as such.

SouthpawMark · « **Reply #289 on:** November 29, 2019, 10:39:17 PM »

Wow what a rubbish referral. Pitched outside, he hit it, and he�s very lucky not to be called for a no ball!

WABH-J · « **Reply #290 on:** November 29, 2019, 11:22:53 PM »

concerned at the lack of pace from the quicks - Archer's speeds are right down, as our Broad's

rickjames · « **Reply #291 on:** November 29, 2019, 11:39:28 PM »

Archer really can't be bothered

csnew · « **Reply #292 on:** November 30, 2019, 08:15:17 AM »

Quote from: rickjames on November 29, 2019, 11:39:28 PM

Archer really can't be bothered

Send him back to Barbados

. Can�t wait to see him sulk when he bowls on the subcontinent.
I see him following the West Indies way and giving up test cricket to play on the t20 circuit.

Decent day for NZ after losing 2 early on in the day - tough to see a result with the rain around

SouthpawMark · « **Reply #293 on:** November 30, 2019, 09:33:18 AM »

It�s almost as if Chris Silverwood is trying to get all the bowlers to bowl like Chris Silverwood. There�s no variation, and all the speeds are pretty much identical. Even Jofra has turned in to an early/mid 80s plodder. Where is the guy who terrorised Steve Smith with 97mph missiles?

Jofra is a big issue, and I think it might be Root�s fault. He overbowled him in the summer, and I think he�s still doing so. I understand the temptation to keep him bowling, but he�s got to be stricter with himself. He should be there to bowl short, sharp bursts of 4-5 overs, when he can give 100% effort, and maybe repeat this over 4-5 spells over the course of the day.

I�m sorry, but Sam Curran isn�t an international bowler. Late 70s won�t get it done against decent batters in benign conditions. I like the left arm variation, but surely there must a left arm bowler out there who can bring a hit more heat?

Manormanic · « **Reply #294 on:** November 30, 2019, 10:17:13 AM »

Quote from: SouthpawMark on November 30, 2019, 09:33:18 AM

It�s almost as if Chris Silverwood is trying to get all the bowlers to bowl like Chris Silverwood.

Would that he were. At least Silvers has gas.

rickjames · « **Reply #295 on:** November 30, 2019, 12:28:37 PM »

Quote from: csnew on November 30, 2019, 08:15:17 AM

Send him back to Barbados . Can�t wait to see him sulk when he bowls on the subcontinent.
I see him following the West Indies way and giving up test cricket to play on the t20 circuit.

Decent day for NZ after losing 2 early on in the day - tough to see a result with the rain around

I don't know if I'm being harsh but if he can't take up a notch like he's more than capable of doing, then he's as dispensable the other bowlers on the tour; even when he was having 4/5 over spells briefly it was nothing more than mid 80s. Is it the player or the captain?

The more I mull it over the more I realise how much we miss Jimmy

billyb · « **Reply #296 on:** November 30, 2019, 06:22:32 PM »

I wonder if Root has lost the team & the dressing room. The body language, the apparent lack of effort by some... All is not well in the camp.

SouthpawMark · « **Reply #297 on:** November 30, 2019, 06:52:26 PM »

Quote from: billyb on November 30, 2019, 06:22:32 PM

I wonder if Root has lost the team & the dressing room. The body language, the apparent lack of effort by some... All is not well in the camp.

I don�t think Archer has much respect for him. Think he would choose Morgan over him every single time. I noticed the body language yesterday too... the whole team looked a bit lethargic and not up for the fight. Root�s captaincy is totally uninspiring. If he�s going to stay in the job he really needs to pick the brains of Vaughan and Strauss, who have been two of the best man managers in red ball cricket in the last 20 years for England.

Coach · « **Reply #298 on:** November 30, 2019, 07:02:10 PM »

Quote from: SouthpawMark on November 29, 2019, 10:19:27 PM

He was on his heels and looked away at the most important moment. He should be standing up to Curran... he�s bowling mid-70s!

Interesting conversation here gents, agree that it was a chance, however I�m not so sure about being stood up. Speed isn�t the only factor in this discussion which is why it doesn�t happen more in test cricket.

SouthpawMark · « **Reply #299 on:** November 30, 2019, 07:15:29 PM »

Quote from: Coach on November 30, 2019, 07:02:10 PM

Interesting conversation here gents, agree that it was a chance, however I�m not so sure about being stood up. Speed isn�t the only factor in this discussion which is why it doesn�t happen more in test cricket.

My �he should be standing up� comment was in the heat of the moment, and in hindsight was a bit silly, given who the keeper in question is. However, I still stand by my comments that Pope should not be keeping, and Curran is not quick enough to be a test bowler. He might get it to hoop around in England when it�s cloudy, but anywhere else, with the Kookaburra ball, he�s not offering anything other than a different angle (and even that�s not a particularly big benefit given England�s obsession with bowling around the wicket at the moment).

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