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alexhilly1492

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Re: England Tour of South Africa, Test ODI and T20
« Reply #120 on: December 26, 2019, 02:32:07 PM »
Anyone else noticed de kock batting in a masuri keeping helmet?
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Re: England Tour of South Africa, Test ODI and T20
« Reply #121 on: December 26, 2019, 02:34:03 PM »
edit: duplicate of Alexhilly1492 question
« Last Edit: December 26, 2019, 02:41:14 PM by shadowlight »
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Re: England Tour of South Africa, Test ODI and T20
« Reply #122 on: December 26, 2019, 02:37:00 PM »
Relying on your big hitting 6 to win test matches isn't a long term strategy but he's played a pretty decent hand here.
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Re: England Tour of South Africa, Test ODI and T20
« Reply #123 on: December 26, 2019, 02:40:06 PM »
S Curran does it again!! One needed for a Michelle
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Re: England Tour of South Africa, Test ODI and T20
« Reply #124 on: December 26, 2019, 02:43:56 PM »
Almost like having variety in your bowling attack is a huge advantage?
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Re: England Tour of South Africa, Test ODI and T20
« Reply #125 on: December 26, 2019, 02:55:35 PM »
Quote from: Jimbo on December 26, 2019, 02:43:56 PM
Almost like having variety in your bowling attack is a huge advantage?
Seems like the slower you Bowl the more movement you get.
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Re: England Tour of South Africa, Test ODI and T20
« Reply #126 on: December 26, 2019, 03:35:55 PM »
Interesting - I reckon advantage just about England as it stands but a lot rests on how England bat in that first session (provided they take that last wicket quickly!)
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Re: England Tour of South Africa, Test ODI and T20
« Reply #127 on: December 26, 2019, 03:40:17 PM »
How does the slow over rate penalty work in WTC?  I believe the team loses points but are fines and suspension associated with it, also?
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Re: England Tour of South Africa, Test ODI and T20
« Reply #128 on: December 26, 2019, 04:06:16 PM »
Quote from: RPC/Blueroom Cricket - Adie on December 26, 2019, 02:29:28 PM
Chanceless was it ? Easy to point and say that but he’s nicked a lot and been dropped.
How many decent scores are chanceless and don't involve a few nicks and the odd dropped chance at this level, pretty much none I would imagine. I thought it was good counter attacking knock, yes it's not going to work all the time but a batting order (much like a bowling attack) needs variety. Cant all be blockers or all hitters, need both in my opinion.
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Re: England Tour of South Africa, Test ODI and T20
« Reply #129 on: December 26, 2019, 04:22:44 PM »
Has there been an instance of WK batting in the top 5 and being consistent batting wise with good average?  Would SA be better off by making Quinton play strictly as #4/#5 batsmen and using Klassen as the keeper?  Will that help SA or hinder I wonder.

If Markram fails in the 2nd innings he needs to be dropped.  I do not think he has done anything spectacular since the India series to keep his place in the test team.
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Re: England Tour of South Africa, Test ODI and T20
« Reply #130 on: December 26, 2019, 05:08:53 PM »
Quote from: RPC/Blueroom Cricket - Adie on December 26, 2019, 11:56:32 AM
SA are so so so bad. De kock slogging now won’t help

I hate to say this, but for someone who is perfectly reasonable in the real world, you do display some fairly "entrenched" opinions online...
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Re: England Tour of South Africa, Test ODI and T20
« Reply #131 on: December 26, 2019, 05:29:20 PM »
Quote from: shadowlight on December 26, 2019, 04:22:44 PM
Has there been an instance of WK batting in the top 5 and being consistent batting wise with good average?

I give you the legend that is Kumar Sangakarra.

And also to a certain extent our very our Alec Stewart
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Re: England Tour of South Africa, Test ODI and T20
« Reply #132 on: December 26, 2019, 06:07:05 PM »
QDK looked sublime but did get a terrific delivery from Curran.
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Re: England Tour of South Africa, Test ODI and T20
« Reply #133 on: December 26, 2019, 06:41:10 PM »
Quote from: six and out on December 26, 2019, 05:29:20 PM
I give you the legend that is Kumar Sangakarra.

And also to a certain extent our very our Alec Stewart
Missed both those thinking that Sangakara was batting at 3 after giving up the gloves, while Stewart gave up the gloves shortly after he he started opening.
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Re: England Tour of South Africa, Test ODI and T20
« Reply #134 on: December 26, 2019, 08:01:10 PM »
Quote from: shadowlight on December 26, 2019, 04:22:44 PM
Has there been an instance of WK batting in the top 5 and being consistent batting wise with good average? 

Stewart scored 2877 runs at 33 while keeping and batting in the top 5.  Only 6 others have made over 1000 runs whilst keeping and batting top 5, De villiers 1596 at 57, Sangakkarra 3092 at 40 and Andy Flower 3672 at 52 the only ones to average at least 40.

So not many are able to do it successfully.
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