Topic: England Tour of South Africa, Test ODI and T20 (Read 138227 times)

SouthpawMark · « **Reply #825 on:** January 08, 2020, 11:08:41 PM »

I don�t particularly rate Curran as a bowler, but all the while he continues to be a bit of a golden arm for England, it doesn�t make any sense to drop him.

I know in recent months people have been saying that the batting cupboard is bare, but the bowling cupboard isn�t looking that great either. Overton is not, and will never be a good enough bowler for international cricket. Wood is a fine bowler, but he can�t be trusted.

Graeme Smith has a lot to answer for for destroying Finn�s international career.

Jimbo · « **Reply #826 on:** January 09, 2020, 07:30:18 AM »

Agree Craig Overton isn't up to international cricket as a bowler, but there's plenty more options coming through than just him or Wood.

Kulli · « **Reply #827 on:** January 09, 2020, 09:25:36 AM »

Porter and Roland-Jones for two.

jamesisapayne · « **Reply #828 on:** January 09, 2020, 10:01:10 AM »

Not sure you can have Woakes and Anderson as a like for like comparison, and then say Chris Woakes isn't as good a bowler - Of course not, Jimmy has always been a bowler whereas Woakes is an all rounder that splits his time doing 2 separate disciplines. Same for Sam Curran, he's probably as good with the bat as his bowling.

If you're going to compare a guy who bowls fantastically and bats 11 with guys who bat and bowl in equal measure it's pretty unfair to expect them to be as good as Jimmy has been.

alexhilly1492 · « **Reply #829 on:** January 09, 2020, 10:11:09 AM »

If Olly Stone can get fit he should be decent enough, look good vs ireland (i know its only ireland) but has a decent first class record just a shame about the injuries recently

rickjames · « **Reply #830 on:** January 09, 2020, 10:22:40 AM »

Woakes' problem is he's only made for home conditions; can't do anything with the Kookaburra

I expect Archer to come back in for Anderson and that'll be it

ProCricketer1982 · « **Reply #831 on:** January 09, 2020, 11:51:56 AM »

Quote from: jamesisapayne on January 09, 2020, 10:01:10 AM

NSame for Sam Curran, he's probably as good with the bat as his bowling.

Ok, so he came off vs India..... Just look at the sum total of the rest of his knocks... This constant thread that Curran is/will be some sort of quality Bat is baffling... Stop over rating players before they actually achieve something consistently. He isn't and hasn't ever done well in Country Cricket with the bat!! Let alone Tests..

Woakes is No Anderson and at the age he's at, never will be.. However, he's the most effective replacement there is. He does sadly seem to have a Chronic Knee injury though which means yet again, he's probably more of a short term solution.

SOULMAN1012 · « **Reply #832 on:** January 09, 2020, 01:06:06 PM »

If Anderson is out or crocked for our. Summer, easy replacement Darren Steve, swings the duke ball both ways lol

ProCricketer1982 · « **Reply #833 on:** January 09, 2020, 01:30:48 PM »

Quote from: SOULMAN1012 on January 09, 2020, 01:06:06 PM

If Anderson is out or crocked for our. Summer, easy replacement Darren Steve, swings the duke ball both ways lol

'horses for courses' and all that..

jamesisapayne · « **Reply #834 on:** January 09, 2020, 02:08:22 PM »

Quote from: RPC/Blueroom Cricket - Adie on January 09, 2020, 11:51:56 AM

Ok, so he came off vs India..... Just look at the sum total of the rest of his knocks... This constant thread that Curran is/will be some sort of quality Bat is baffling... Stop over rating players before they actually achieve something consistently. He isn't and hasn't ever done well in Country Cricket with the bat!! Let alone Tests..

I'm struggling to see exactly where I've said anything about his quality, so not sure why you feel the need to jump down my throat although looking a lot of your previous posts it seems to be a recurring theme!

I simply said that his batting looks as good as his bowling, which from what I've seen personally it looks pretty good for a relatively young guy.

Cheers.

ppccopener · « **Reply #835 on:** January 09, 2020, 04:50:29 PM »

Curran has done pretty well since coming into the team, as you point out he is a young player with potential.

I think also having watched him bat his batting could be at the same level as his bowling as he develops, reminds me a bit of Thorpe (his coach at Surrey)

he seems to make things happen and has a good nugget attitude. Lack of pace is there thou....he wouldn't be the first to bowl at 75 mph and be successful thou..its happened before.

add up the bowling, batting and fielding and a competitive streak..he is not a a bad player.

edge · « **Reply #836 on:** January 09, 2020, 05:02:21 PM »

Curran is an interesting one, he's clearly not quite there at international level but he keeps performing well enough that he's hard to leave out! I do think his bowling's improving but his batting's going backwards though.

Mister Le Chiffre · « **Reply #837 on:** January 09, 2020, 06:18:57 PM »

Curran is essentially Bresnan MKII. Will have that beginners luck before fading away.

ppccopener · « **Reply #838 on:** January 09, 2020, 06:45:07 PM »

Quote from: edge on January 09, 2020, 05:02:21 PM

Curran is an interesting one, he's clearly not quite there at international level but he keeps performing well enough that he's hard to leave out! I do think his bowling's improving but his batting's going backwards though.

Given his height Edge do you think it�s possible he could gain pace in his bowling? As in a relatively significant amount?

I�m no bowler but I would of thought being a short guy would limit that side of his game

Bats_Entertainment · « **Reply #839 on:** January 09, 2020, 07:26:36 PM »

"Wood is a fine bowler, but can't be trusted," is a very strange statement. Trusted to do what, exactly? If he can't be trusted to bowl, then how can he be a fine bowler?

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