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Re: England Tour of South Africa, Test ODI and T20
« Reply #870 on: January 15, 2020, 08:22:15 PM »

When Cook stepped down Anderson went for the job and got short shift from the plan which was always to make Root captain, that was a couple of years ago so as Anderson is injured now, could he of done the job for 2-3 years maybe until the point we are at now? I think he could of and see no issue with a bowler as captain. instead we have Root who as most of us have said is not really ideal, mainly as his batting is affected, second because he's just not a good captain-not his fault not everyone can be.

Archer I'm convinced has not been handled well and will be a short form bowler in the future,if you look back we have had precious few genuinely quick bowlers over the years- and they have not had that long bowling genuine pace.

Flintoff
Harmison
Jones
Wood
Archer
Stone.

I do think also a lot depends on the pitches, where are the quick tracks around the world where someone touching 90 mph can really operate?

None in the West Indies
Havnt seen one in South Africa
India no
Pakistan no
Australia? Where is really quick..Perth used to be maybe put that in
England ?'the Oval? Not really any more.

Fast bowlers lot is a tough one, Wood can get it thru but how many games  has he played, Stone the same-quick but injuries are round the corner.

I think going forward we may need 6 bowlers...Broad,Anderson,Woakes,Wood,Stokes.....it's an ageing attack and we may have to cover some players in hot conditions abroad.

Archer is good but he won't do a lot of bowling...and maybe he shouldn't be bowling 25 overs a day anyway.
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Re: England Tour of South Africa, Test ODI and T20
« Reply #871 on: January 15, 2020, 08:49:53 PM »

@FattusCattus have to agree Archer doesn't seem to have been given a consistent, coherent role to play in the English bowling attack. Think we would see a much more effective player if he was used more intelligently.
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Re: England Tour of South Africa, Test ODI and T20
« Reply #872 on: January 15, 2020, 09:09:22 PM »

Moeen is rubbish and should never play test cricket again. He’s also mentally weak.
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Re: England Tour of South Africa, Test ODI and T20
« Reply #873 on: January 15, 2020, 09:18:15 PM »

Moeen is rubbish and should never play test cricket again. He’s also mentally weak.

This couldn't be further from the truth.
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Re: England Tour of South Africa, Test ODI and T20
« Reply #874 on: January 15, 2020, 09:24:43 PM »

Moeen is rubbish and should never play test cricket again. He’s also mentally weak.

Can't agree with that but whatever is thought with Leach not fully fit, Rashid injured shoulder, I probably should but don't even know who Parkinson is:

England will be back to Mo again to twist his arm for the Sril Lanka tour. I think.....he is playing in the Pakistan 2020 league then thou and has signed up.

So the reality is England need him available, England removed his test contract so look at that whatever way you want.

Someone on here the other day said don't worry about our batting look a bit deeper and the bowling has cracks as well.

Whoever that was made a good point.

Far as I can work out the best spinner in County cricket is a South African who plays  for Essex.
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Re: England Tour of South Africa, Test ODI and T20
« Reply #875 on: January 15, 2020, 09:26:57 PM »

Is it possible to block people on this forum so I don't see their posts anymore?

There are 2-3 members on here that are really putting the wind up everyone else and it's getting silly.
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« Reply #876 on: January 15, 2020, 09:54:12 PM »

@jamesisapayne click on profile in the black bar.

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Re: England Tour of South Africa, Test ODI and T20
« Reply #877 on: January 15, 2020, 09:58:26 PM »

Ha ha thanks mate - no not you at all ;)
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Re: England Tour of South Africa, Test ODI and T20
« Reply #878 on: January 15, 2020, 10:03:46 PM »

The reality of bowling at 90mph + on a consistent basis are injuries because of the strain it puts on the body.  If England are to be competitive in test cricket away from home, it will need Wood, Archer and Wood to be rotated within a series and managed better within games.  The way Root has run Archer into the ground has been rediculous

I am looking forward to seeing Wood back in the side.  His spell last year against the WIndies is up there as a fast a spell of bowling anyone has ever delivered for England. 
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Re: England Tour of South Africa, Test ODI and T20
« Reply #879 on: January 15, 2020, 10:16:54 PM »

I am looking forward to seeing Wood back in the side.  His spell last year against the WIndies is up there as a fast a spell of bowling anyone has ever delivered for England.

Me too. When he's fit and firing he's certainly great to watch
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Re: England Tour of South Africa, Test ODI and T20
« Reply #880 on: January 15, 2020, 10:39:48 PM »

This couldn't be further from the truth.
He's a bits and pieces cricketer. Nothing more nothing less.
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Re: England Tour of South Africa, Test ODI and T20
« Reply #881 on: January 15, 2020, 10:46:23 PM »

He's a bits and pieces cricketer. Nothing more nothing less.
Did this come from Sanjay Manjrekar  ;)
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Re: England Tour of South Africa, Test ODI and T20
« Reply #882 on: January 16, 2020, 07:36:46 AM »

Woody comes in for jimmy
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Re: England Tour of South Africa, Test ODI and T20
« Reply #883 on: January 16, 2020, 07:52:22 AM »

Woody comes in for jimmy

Big fan of Wood, really hope he comes through this doing well and staying fit.
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Re: England Tour of South Africa, Test ODI and T20
« Reply #884 on: January 16, 2020, 07:57:07 AM »

We’re Having a bat, a good start if the pitch really is dry spin may come in later
But we need a good score on the board first  :)
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