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rickjames

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Re: England Tour of South Africa, Test ODI and T20
« Reply #945 on: January 17, 2020, 12:04:27 PM »
Can we drop Buttler, please? That was awful.
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« Reply #946 on: January 17, 2020, 12:06:34 PM »
Buttler looking totally lost in test match cricket - was the perfect situation for him with the platform set
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« Reply #947 on: January 17, 2020, 12:07:47 PM »
I think this could be butlers last test series for a while
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Re: England Tour of South Africa, Test ODI and T20
« Reply #948 on: January 17, 2020, 12:18:11 PM »
Quote from: edge on January 17, 2020, 11:42:49 AM
Not sure there's much milage to be gained comparing Stokes and Botham, very different players. Botham was a genuine bowling great who was the leading all time wicket taker when he retired and took a 5fer nearly every 3 games, and also happened to be a really good aggressive batsman. Whereas Stokes is turning himself into a batting phenomenon, but as a bowler he's increasingly bowling only when needed. Both unbelievable players but go about the role quite differently - they could easily play in the same team.

yes shows how good Botham was as his bowling for a long period would get him in the side alone. Stokes looks like he will be a part time bowler or forth seamer maybe..

for what its worth I think Stokes is the better batsman of the two
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Re: England Tour of South Africa, Test ODI and T20
« Reply #949 on: January 17, 2020, 12:19:39 PM »
Quote from: Jlscarroll17 on January 17, 2020, 12:07:47 PM
I think this could be butlers last test series for a while

As long as they replace him with a proper keeper (Foakes) rather than give the gloves back to Baristow!
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Re: England Tour of South Africa, Test ODI and T20
« Reply #950 on: January 17, 2020, 12:36:42 PM »
Quote from: ppccopener on January 17, 2020, 12:18:11 PM
yes shows how good Botham was as his bowling for a long period would get him in the side alone. Stokes looks like he will be a part time bowler or forth seamer maybe..

for what its worth I think Stokes is the better batsman of the two
To be fair to Stokes, he is a good enough bowler that England have picked him to bat 8 before. He's definitely best suited as a fourth seamer though, making him bowl the extra overs needed from a front line bowler would probably reduce his impact, and that's before you think about injuries.
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Re: England Tour of South Africa, Test ODI and T20
« Reply #951 on: January 17, 2020, 12:44:29 PM »
Quote from: WalkingWicket37 on January 17, 2020, 12:19:39 PM
As long as they replace him with a proper keeper (Foakes) rather than give the gloves back to Baristow!

Think it has to go to the best keeper in form atm, even if it’s a huge left field selection, but Buttler and Bairstow have had move than enough chances now
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Re: England Tour of South Africa, Test ODI and T20
« Reply #952 on: January 17, 2020, 12:46:18 PM »
Buttler has to be dropped now, he had a great run when he came back into the side but he's not in the same form which got him picked. Foakes is a far superior keeper and more than capable of at least matching Buttler's average with the bat. I'd also back Foakes to bat longer even if he made less runs which could be crucial if the likes of Stokes and Pope need a partner to build an innings with.
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Re: England Tour of South Africa, Test ODI and T20
« Reply #953 on: January 17, 2020, 01:01:19 PM »
Curran doing a decent job of keeping the runs flowing whilst slowing Pope to work towards that all important first test Ton younger players coming of age this tour maybe??
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Re: England Tour of South Africa, Test ODI and T20
« Reply #954 on: January 17, 2020, 01:02:02 PM »
England make 400+ for the first time in 2 years
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Re: England Tour of South Africa, Test ODI and T20
« Reply #955 on: January 17, 2020, 01:07:22 PM »
Quote from: Jimbo on January 17, 2020, 12:46:18 PM
Buttler has to be dropped now, he had a great run when he came back into the side but he's not in the same form which got him picked. Foakes is a far superior keeper and more than capable of at least matching Buttler's average with the bat. I'd also back Foakes to bat longer even if he made less runs which could be crucial if the likes of Stokes and Pope need a partner to build an innings with.

think England have done right to stick by Butler, but good point about Foakes  and anyone batting sown the order, its not just the runs its how they can hang around for others. like Leach for example

Butler was a Smith pick so perhaps has had a bit longer than others, but SL is coming up I think England will now change tack and have a specialist Keeper, What we do in the future thou may be different.

I think myself we are long overdue Faokes playing, don't care what he did for his County last year, in an England shirt hes never let us down
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Re: England Tour of South Africa, Test ODI and T20
« Reply #956 on: January 17, 2020, 01:08:44 PM »
Curran is doing Buttler's job with the bat. Simple, really.
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Re: England Tour of South Africa, Test ODI and T20
« Reply #957 on: January 17, 2020, 01:11:03 PM »
Quote from: rickjames on January 17, 2020, 01:08:44 PM
Curran is doing Buttler's job with the bat. Simple, really.
What, a quick cameo then get out slogging? Buttler is better than that. Well batted by Curran, but getting out like that is why he's not going to work his way up the order any time soon.
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Re: England Tour of South Africa, Test ODI and T20
« Reply #958 on: January 17, 2020, 01:13:59 PM »
POPEY LAD
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Re: England Tour of South Africa, Test ODI and T20
« Reply #959 on: January 17, 2020, 01:27:02 PM »
OLLIE OLLIE POPE, OLLIE POPE, OLLIE OLLIE POOOPE NA NA NA NA NA NA NA NA
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