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SouthpawMark

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Re: England Tour of South Africa, Test ODI and T20
« Reply #1290 on: February 01, 2020, 11:17:42 AM »
Bairstow scored a ton in the latest warm up match for the ODI series. That pretty much guarantees Edward Genius Smith will select him to bat at 3 in the test series in Ceylon.
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« Reply #1291 on: February 01, 2020, 08:29:04 PM »
Quote from: SouthpawMark on January 29, 2020, 08:07:18 AM
I must admit that at the time I thought he looked more out of his depth than any England batsman I had ever seen before, but players can improve, and you also can’t discount the role nerves play for some people.

To be fair, coming in 18/20ths of the innings done for a specialist top order bat whose better formats are longer is not the easiest of gigs...
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Re: England Tour of South Africa, Test ODI and T20
« Reply #1292 on: February 02, 2020, 04:39:57 PM »
Quote from: SouthpawMark on February 01, 2020, 11:17:42 AM
Bairstow scored a ton in the latest warm up match for the ODI series. That pretty much guarantees Edward Genius Smith will select him to bat at 3 in the test series in Ceylon.

You may be right, but news Moeen is coming back to test cricket might make things less clear for Bairstow.

Despite poor form recently Mo has been seen as a consistent run scorer in the lower order
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« Reply #1293 on: February 02, 2020, 06:54:10 PM »
It will be interesting to see how Mo goes now he has had a break.
Before cricket became so commercialised players used to have a winter off relatively frequently.
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Re: England Tour of South Africa, Test ODI and T20
« Reply #1294 on: February 02, 2020, 07:04:08 PM »
Basically moeen is happy to play against Sri Lanka as they are rubbish. We should bin this clown as next winter India will battering him for fun.
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Re: England Tour of South Africa, Test ODI and T20
« Reply #1295 on: February 02, 2020, 07:22:17 PM »
Quote from: Mister Le Chiffre on February 02, 2020, 07:04:08 PM
Basically moeen is happy to play against Sri Lanka as they are rubbish. We should bin this clown as next winter India will battering him for fun.

Poor form, lack of confidence, happens to the the best players. He has played well against India in the past and his stats overall are pretty good.

England are no where near good enough to disgard him from the test side, most fans want him to be available for us.

But your view is your own and your entitled to it. It's a free Country.  :)
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Re: England Tour of South Africa, Test ODI and T20
« Reply #1296 on: February 02, 2020, 07:52:23 PM »
Quote from: Mister Le Chiffre on February 02, 2020, 07:04:08 PM
Basically moeen is happy to play against Sri Lanka as they are rubbish. We should bin this clown as next winter India will battering him for fun.

We? You dont sound like an England fan to me
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Re: England Tour of South Africa, Test ODI and T20
« Reply #1297 on: February 02, 2020, 07:59:40 PM »
Quote from: Mister Le Chiffre on February 02, 2020, 07:04:08 PM
Basically moeen is happy to play against Sri Lanka as they are rubbish. We should bin this clown as next winter India will battering him for fun.

Have you watched ‘The Edge’ yet?

Gives you a true insight to the mental strains of test cricket on some of our greatest players.
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Re: England Tour of South Africa, Test ODI and T20
« Reply #1298 on: February 02, 2020, 08:52:05 PM »
Quote from: ppccopener on February 02, 2020, 07:22:17 PM
Poor form, lack of confidence, happens to the the best players. He has played well against India in the past and his stats overall are pretty good.

England are no where near good enough to disgard him from the test side, most fans want him to be available for us.

But your view is your own and your entitled to it. It's a free Country.  :)
moeen averages 65 in India so that's hardly worthy of a place in the squad next winter let alone a place in the playing xi.
moeen made himself unavailable so it's on him to earn a recall.
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Re: England Tour of South Africa, Test ODI and T20
« Reply #1299 on: February 02, 2020, 08:53:33 PM »
Quote from: alba caerulea on February 02, 2020, 07:52:23 PM
We? You dont sound like an England fan to me
We have perfectly decent English spinners such as Leach and Bess.
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Re: England Tour of South Africa, Test ODI and T20
« Reply #1300 on: February 02, 2020, 09:08:19 PM »
Quote from: Mister Le Chiffre on February 02, 2020, 08:53:33 PM
We have perfectly decent English spinners such as Leach and Bess.

Both talented. Neither as good as Moeen in white ball cricket.
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Re: England Tour of South Africa, Test ODI and T20
« Reply #1301 on: February 02, 2020, 09:10:45 PM »
Quote from: Mister Le Chiffre on February 02, 2020, 08:53:33 PM
We have perfectly decent English spinners such as Leach and Bess.

?? What is an English spinner? Moeen is British.

Are you on this forum solely to wind up others? I think you have lost the plot.
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Re: England Tour of South Africa, Test ODI and T20
« Reply #1302 on: February 02, 2020, 11:10:12 PM »
Quote from: Mister Le Chiffre on February 02, 2020, 08:53:33 PM
We have perfectly decent English spinners such as Leach and Bess.

Think you and one or two others only make comment to get a reaction and must enjoy a keyboard argument.

Ali when fit and he has been mentally unwell so unfit is England’s best spinner, based on experience at test level and is a very handy lower order test batsmen. Every true England fan wants Ali in the side if fit
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Re: England Tour of South Africa, Test ODI and T20
« Reply #1303 on: February 02, 2020, 11:21:31 PM »
Quote from: Mister Le Chiffre on February 02, 2020, 07:04:08 PM
Basically moeen is happy to play against Sri Lanka as they are rubbish. We should bin this clown as next winter India will battering him for fun.

Not many people left in the game with the Geoffrey Boycott attitude to mental health issues. 
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Re: England Tour of South Africa, Test ODI and T20
« Reply #1304 on: February 03, 2020, 08:28:17 AM »
Quote from: Mister Le Chiffre on February 02, 2020, 08:53:33 PM
We have perfectly decent English spinners such as Leach and Bess.

Agree this was worded very poorly, but I think he 2qs saying 2 other spinners capable of playing for England, don't think he was questioning whether moeen was British or English etc.
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