Topic: Couple of Players bats (Read 20611 times)

potzy248 · « **Reply #60 on:** May 14, 2020, 10:10:47 AM »

Quote from: DorsetDan on May 14, 2020, 09:59:22 AM

It's bollox that a bat Joe Root may hit 200 odd with will make you suddenly amazing but there's no way you are buying a 2.9 of that size with that volume of wood off the shelf. The ex Root Wade bat on p3 is another example. You just aren't going to get that so in that respect there *can* be something a little be special about "pro bats"

The only custom company I would trust to make me an exact replica is B3 but you would have to wait for the cleft and then pay the price. They made me a ridiculous Trott profile a few years ago that weighed 2.10lb. I think they could make a copy of the Wade bat.

Also I have seen Kane's new (last seasons) bats in my hand and they were pretty much exactly like the Williamson editions but were all light pick up. Some Williamson editions I have seen are 2.11 so the Pro's still get the lightest bats.

Canners · « **Reply #61 on:** May 14, 2020, 10:21:12 AM »

i agree with the coments above- @SOULMAN1012 the GM players edition bats i would suspect are similar in quality to what the majority of makers offer as a standard pro shape for the pro boys to pick through..... i also agree the players editions are very very good bats and will be as good as you can get from GM as a punter.....

the real top pros... ie Kohli/root etc will get bats that anyone will struggle to get anywhere i would think...... and as i said and @potzy248 also states above the only place as a joe bloggs customer would be able to source somthing remarkably close to these IMO would be B3, my b3 root i foolishly sold would have been similar specs to this root but again that was a very very rare cleft.

I think we can all agree the top top pros get better than any of us mere mortals can get hold of and even most average county players.......

i am by no means saying these bats make you a superior player, i certainly would feel a million dollars wielding one of those bad boys even if i lasted 2 balls before snicking off

Gurujames · « **Reply #62 on:** May 14, 2020, 10:45:15 AM »

But if low density willow, quality pressing and shaping lead to an absolute top notch �pro� bat why wouldn�t companies that grow their own willow such as Kippax and H4L also be able to get their hands on similar clefts?

Six Sixes Cricket · « **Reply #63 on:** May 14, 2020, 10:51:02 AM »

Segregated Pro Clefts, Oversized, Available to the public through the custom route from GN

Yorkershire · « **Reply #64 on:** May 14, 2020, 11:05:30 AM »

Quote from: Gurujames on May 14, 2020, 10:45:15 AM

But if low density willow, quality pressing and shaping lead to an absolute top notch �pro� bat why wouldn�t companies that grow their own willow such as Kippax and H4L also be able to get their hands on similar clefts?

Absolutely agree!

Jimbo · « **Reply #65 on:** May 14, 2020, 11:13:56 AM »

Kippax and H4L provide bats to sponsored players do they not? Would assume that's where their best bats go. They also don't have anything like the volume of bats sold as GM or GN so presumably deal with a lower volume of willow so less chance to get one of these type of clefts.

LEACHY48 · « **Reply #66 on:** May 14, 2020, 11:15:08 AM »

Quote from: Gurujames on May 14, 2020, 10:45:15 AM

But if low density willow, quality pressing and shaping lead to an absolute top notch �pro� bat why wouldn�t companies that grow their own willow such as Kippax and H4L also be able to get their hands on similar clefts?

This is a non argument really, they do get their hands on similar clefts, we just don't get to readily access them because their pros do.

jayralh · « **Reply #67 on:** May 14, 2020, 12:13:40 PM »

Pro bats are good as long as you play against pro bowler with pro skills on pro wicket on pro outfield. cant hit boundary same way as pro will given the some park grounds most of us play on.
Cant drive F1 car on public roads.

LEACHY48 · « **Reply #68 on:** May 14, 2020, 12:41:19 PM »

Quote from: jayralh on May 14, 2020, 12:13:40 PM

Pro bats are good as long as you play against pro bowler with pro skills on pro wicket on pro outfield. cant hit boundary same way as pro will given the some park grounds most of us play on.
Cant drive F1 car on public roads.

I disagree with this entirely. You're more likely to hit boundaries with the best performing stick you can rather than a barn door plank. The pitch is irrelevant

joymarvin · « **Reply #69 on:** May 14, 2020, 01:06:02 PM »

Quote from: LEACHY48 on May 14, 2020, 12:41:19 PM

I disagree with this entirely. You're more likely to hit boundaries with the best performing stick you can rather than a barn door plank. The pitch is irrelevant

Add up skills with a performing stick

alexhilly1492 · « **Reply #70 on:** May 14, 2020, 01:33:33 PM »

Quote from: jayralh on May 14, 2020, 12:13:40 PM

Cant drive F1 car on public roads.

Yes you can. Heard of street circuits?

Canners · « **Reply #71 on:** May 14, 2020, 01:37:50 PM »

At the end of the day any top professional will use the best tools available to them.

It�s like saying federer would have still been great using a racket out of Asda compared to the best technology allows. Or some top hair dresser would be able to give a decent cut with my kitchen scissors.

The pros bats are generally better across the board, obviously there are some exceptions to the rule.

Pros are far better players and yes they would still be pros with average bats but a top bat makes a hell of a difference.

LEACHY48 · « **Reply #72 on:** May 14, 2020, 01:52:01 PM »

Quote from: joymarvin on May 14, 2020, 01:06:02 PM

Add up skills with a performing stick

Your point was that you couldn't score boundaries with a pro bat because often you play on poor pitches, so I took it to the extreme and showed the argument was wrong. Not sure I understand this subsequent post?

LEACHY48 · « **Reply #73 on:** May 14, 2020, 01:52:47 PM »

Quote from: Canners on May 14, 2020, 01:37:50 PM

At the end of the day any top professional will use the best tools available to them.

It�s like saying federer would have still been great using a racket out of Asda compared to the best technology allows. Or some top hair dresser would be able to give a decent cut with my kitchen scissors.

The pros bats are generally better across the board, obviously there are some exceptions to the rule.

Pros are far better players and yes they would still be pros with average bats but a top bat makes a hell of a difference.

100%

No pro bat will make you a better player skills wise, but it might make you hit the ball a bit cleaner than you otherwise would have.

Jimbo · « **Reply #74 on:** May 14, 2020, 01:53:45 PM »

Quote from: Canners on May 14, 2020, 01:37:50 PM

At the end of the day any top professional will use the best tools available to them.

It�s like saying federer would have still been great using a racket out of Asda compared to the best technology allows. Or some top hair dresser would be able to give a decent cut with my kitchen scissors.

The pros bats are generally better across the board, obviously there are some exceptions to the rule.

Pros are far better players and yes they would still be pros with average bats but a top bat makes a hell of a difference.

At the absolute elite level the difference between success and failure can be tiny so it makes sense that anyone at that level is going to want to maximise the advantage they can gain from factors they can control.

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