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Jeff Navarro

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Re: England�s international summer
« Reply #165 on: July 10, 2020, 03:35:30 PM »

Can we have the Ashes 2019 version of Archer please
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« Reply #166 on: July 10, 2020, 03:40:45 PM »

Utter tripe. Again, if he can't up the pace I'm failing to see where he warrants selection
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Re: England�s international summer
« Reply #167 on: July 10, 2020, 03:45:58 PM »

Think Archer's finding out it's more physically demanding playing red ball cricket, than being a T20 gun. Where you party as much as you play.
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« Reply #168 on: July 10, 2020, 03:48:55 PM »

Said it before as have a few others, I think he will be short lived in 5 day cricket and mainly be a limited overs/franchise player sooner rather than later
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Re: England’s international summer
« Reply #169 on: July 10, 2020, 03:49:12 PM »

Poor field from stokes, only two slips and a third man with the new ball - windies won’t mind this
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Re: England�s international summer
« Reply #170 on: July 10, 2020, 03:51:58 PM »

Please take the ball out of Archer's hands and give it to someone else. He is wasting the new ball. No pace or consistency at all.
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Re: England’s international summer
« Reply #171 on: July 10, 2020, 04:28:29 PM »

Nice sharpie on holder's bat. Can't be a genuine pro bat??
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Re: England’s international summer
« Reply #172 on: July 10, 2020, 04:28:55 PM »

There you go. He's out. Must be a fake 😂😂
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Re: England’s international summer
« Reply #173 on: July 10, 2020, 04:36:30 PM »

Holder must be using his old SS stock

Joseph using a keeley
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Re: England�s international summer
« Reply #174 on: July 10, 2020, 05:04:07 PM »

Got to hand it to Stokes, just digs in
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Re: England’s international summer
« Reply #175 on: July 10, 2020, 05:15:05 PM »

I got to watch the game the last 15 minutes or so of the WI innings.

1) I did not hear a lot of encouragement from the team for each other.
2) Kind of surprised that Butler and Stokes were not chatting about field placement especially after Joseph just dangling the bat out to get couple of boundaries past the slip cordon.
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Re: England’s international summer
« Reply #176 on: July 10, 2020, 07:59:43 PM »

I got to watch the game the last 15 minutes or so of the WI innings.

1) I did not hear a lot of encouragement from the team for each other.
2) Kind of surprised that Butler and Stokes were not chatting about field placement especially after Joseph just dangling the bat out to get couple of boundaries past the slip cordon.


I listened to it all and watched the hour highlights on BBC.

On 2, perhaps Butler and Stokes were wondering why one of the two bowlers capable of real pace sent down a lot of medium pace ones, leg stump half volleys you would not set a field for in a club game let alone a Test match.
By the end of the day there's not much left to say.

In contrast Wood was bending his action out of shape to get some hurry up into their batting.

I appreciate lots on here had no problem with Broad being left out but I said at the time it's a harsh call.

Archer bowls within himself a lot of the matches I've seen and I'm real sorry to burst the bubble but if it's a choice between a fast medium bowler who gives 100 per cent and a proven test record  or someone quicker who does not then it's no choice at all.
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Re: England’s international summer
« Reply #177 on: July 11, 2020, 05:39:31 AM »

I have watched alot live so far and all 3 days highlights.

I think we have mis-read the pitch in picking the team, in thinking it was going to be alot quicker than it actually is. And we are quite possibly going to regret flogging Wood to much so he can't play later on in the series etc...

I feel the wicket is why Archer is bowling why he is more than anything, we have seen before when the wicket is slower and not doing much he drops his speed and tries much for line and length and variety, he was bowling knuckle balls today!

Overall though I can't get over the fact that we didn't bowl 1st. People have said that you have to look down rather than up when making your decision at the toss, I am sorry that's garbage! You have the best swing bowler in the world, a weather forecast that Michael Fish wasn't going to get wrong, an opposition whose batting is far far worse than their bowling, and a top 6 that hasn't batted for months! Sometimes you don't just see a 'dry' pitch and go yep let's have a bat as it's test cricket. It is still possible to win a test batting once if you bowl first.

I will happily eat these words, Bess my take a bundle on the last day (he has bowled very well) after we rack up a lead but I really can't see it.

PS - sorry for the downbeat tone
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Re: England�s international summer
« Reply #178 on: July 11, 2020, 10:47:04 AM »

Seems like we have a road now, and Burns and Sibley going nicely. That being said, it's effectively a Day 3 pitch.
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Re: England�s international summer
« Reply #179 on: July 11, 2020, 11:27:57 AM »

Pitch starting to misbehave,

Going up and down, puffs of dust from the surface starting to appear
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