Topic: England�s international summer (Read 123897 times)

alba caerulea · « **Reply #270 on:** July 13, 2020, 02:08:11 PM »

Quote from: Jlscarroll17 on July 12, 2020, 10:34:49 PM

I�m not sold on Pope, I�d like to see Lawrence given a chance, another that�s churned out runs consistently at county and lions level, there�s also Hain but he�s in the ODI squad so hopefully we�ll get to see him in England colours this summer

If you aren't sold on Pope then I suggest you take up another sport. Hes the real deal and I predict he will finish his Test career with a 50+ average and 25+ centuries

Quote from: RPC/Blueroom Cricket - Adie on July 12, 2020, 09:18:27 PM

No Bairstow won�t help
No Moeen won�t help either
We still need a top order bat who will eat balls for fun but actually average 40+

Foakes has to come in and be given as many tests as Buttler and Bairstow (40+ and 70+ is it !!!).

Archer needs to realise he�s an 11 batter

Good game to watch though, better than a lot of the tests over the last few years

Agree with all these points except Im not sure exactly how Archers batting position is his fault. Pretty sure the captain decides the order!

Foakes has to come in for me. Butlers sample size now is big enough to say he wont cut it. Move on.

ppccopener · « **Reply #271 on:** July 13, 2020, 02:23:43 PM »

Pope is the real deal, far and away the best young batsmen, it's fairly inexperienced our batting line up that's why I think Denly has done a job.
But you have to stick with younger players they will get better.

I actually think we have a decent line up with Root back shortly.

Keeper will be interesting, Foakes has sat out too long already but I wonder if Smith will give Jos another 2 games. Brilliant player Butler but hasn't done enough in the five day game to be honest.

I just hope we don't go back to Bairstow with the flawed thinking our batting needs shoring up and he is the best bet to do it.

ProCricketer1982 · « **Reply #272 on:** July 13, 2020, 03:05:19 PM »

We jut need a top three whose primary role is the use up 100 balls each. Ideally they�ll average 40+ too but I�ll take someone chewing balls and averaging 35 (burns for example) .. why.. because that�s test cricket and it�s what you need when the rest of thr batting line up is aggressive.

Bairstow should never see the light of day again
Moeen
Buttler

Foakes should be given 20 tests and let�s see . Leave pope at 6 and if denly has to go, don�t shoe horn in another middle order player.. find someone who is prepared to graft

Jlscarroll17 · « **Reply #273 on:** July 13, 2020, 03:29:45 PM »

Quote from: alba caerulea on July 13, 2020, 02:08:11 PM

If you aren't sold on Pope then I suggest you take up another sport. Hes the real deal and I predict he will finish his Test career with a 50+ average and 25+ centurion

And why must I take up a new sport ? Am I not allowed to have an opinion? Bow down to our mighty ruler !

ppccopener · « **Reply #274 on:** July 13, 2020, 03:51:13 PM »

Quote from: RPC/Blueroom Cricket - Adie on July 13, 2020, 03:05:19 PM

We jut need a top three whose primary role is the use up 100 balls each. Ideally they�ll average 40+ too but I�ll take someone chewing balls and averaging 35 (burns for example) .. why.. because that�s test cricket and it�s what you need when the rest of thr batting line up is aggressive.

Bairstow should never see the light of day again
Moeen
Buttler

Foakes should be given 20 tests and let�s see . Leave pope at 6 and if denly has to go, don�t shoe horn in another middle order
player.. find someone who is prepared to graft

We do totally agree, I think with Burns and now Sibley, Crawley maybe we have got guys willing to put the work in at the top.
Even Windies and India(pujara) have at least one who can really dig in with defence their strength.

Seems we are moving away from one day players as square pegs in round holes-not sure on Crawley but don�t think our current openers are picked in the County one day format

brokenbat · « **Reply #275 on:** July 13, 2020, 04:06:10 PM »

Fantastic game to watch. The better team won - I think the windies are fast becoming a force to be reckoned with again.

ppccopener · « **Reply #276 on:** July 13, 2020, 04:06:46 PM »

Quote from: Jlscarroll17 on July 13, 2020, 03:29:45 PM

And why must I take up a new sport ? Am I not allowed to have an opinion? Bow down to our mighty ruler !

Nope you are allowed an opinion

the forum would be a crashing bore if we all agreed

Your wrong on Pope thou....he has the talent to be a real success I think that's why England have him at 6 to make sure he has time to settle in.

Dan Lawrence is highly rated and now on the selectors radar. Don't know a huge amount about him but think he's a four or five bat....he may need to do what Sibley has done and move up at his current County or elsewhere

Not sure exactly where he bats for his County

alba caerulea · « **Reply #277 on:** July 13, 2020, 05:33:25 PM »

Quote from: Jlscarroll17 on July 13, 2020, 03:29:45 PM

And why must I take up a new sport ? Am I not allowed to have an opinion? Bow down to our mighty ruler !

I was implying that you clearly know nothing about this one. And I stand by it if you dont rate Pope.

billyb · « **Reply #278 on:** July 13, 2020, 05:52:51 PM »

Having an opinion doesn't prevent you from being wrong.

Just like how I thought Ballance would have 10k test runs by now.

ppccopener · « **Reply #279 on:** July 13, 2020, 06:05:55 PM »

Quote from: billyb on July 13, 2020, 05:52:51 PM

Having an opinion doesn't prevent you from being wrong.

Just like how I thought Ballance would have 10k test runs by now.

Started off like a train did Gaz Ballance...seemed to go a bit tits up from when he was front page of the Sun with his shirt off in a club.

Jlscarroll17 · « **Reply #280 on:** July 13, 2020, 06:45:50 PM »

Quote from: alba caerulea on July 13, 2020, 05:33:25 PM

I was implying that you clearly know nothing about this one. And I stand by it if you dont rate Pope.

So how does MY OPINION mean I know nothing about cricket ? I guess whatever you say is right, I�ll remember that. All hail the CBF messiah !!

Jlscarroll17 · « **Reply #281 on:** July 13, 2020, 06:48:46 PM »

Quote from: billyb on July 13, 2020, 05:52:51 PM

Having an opinion doesn't prevent you from being wrong.

Just like how I thought Ballance would have 10k test runs by now.

So come the end of Pope�s career and I�m proven wrong then I will say I�m wrong but until then I will stand by what I said, never said the lad doesn�t have a talent just said I�m not sold on him yet

LEACHY48 · « **Reply #282 on:** July 13, 2020, 08:05:36 PM »

On the topic of Pope, he clearly is, at the moment, the 3rd best player in the team on sheer talent alone. His performance in South Africa against arguably the best bowling side around highlighted him as a serious player.

England were however 2nd best in every department, and the sooner Ed Smith is sacked the better.

billyb · « **Reply #283 on:** July 13, 2020, 08:49:35 PM »

Quote from: Jlscarroll17 on July 13, 2020, 06:48:46 PM

So come the end of Pope�s career and I�m proven wrong then I will say I�m wrong but until then I will stand by what I said, never said the lad doesn�t have a talent just said I�m not sold on him yet

Fair enough!

Do people think Lawrence has what it takes?
And where is Sam Hain?

ppccopener · « **Reply #284 on:** July 13, 2020, 08:58:25 PM »

Quote from: LEACHY48 on July 13, 2020, 08:05:36 PM

On the topic of Pope, he clearly is, at the moment, the 3rd best player in the team on sheer talent alone. His performance in South Africa against arguably the best bowling side around highlighted him as a serious player.

England were however 2nd best in every department, and the sooner Ed Smith is sacked the better.

Ah...Ed Smith...I wasn't going to mention this but there is an article on line today about Broads selection, and also that Jos will be given another couple of matches....I think Foakes should be in but...it's not the worse decision I've seen over the years following England

Broad has gone in and asked Smith directly why he was dropped, Smith allegedly says ' I only help pick the team'

Well.....he picked out Butler and Jos has had an extended run without pulling up any trees so far....

Final decision rests with captain and coach on the day,or the day before,whatever they want

The question I have is...is this a cop out by Smith or exactly how selection should work?

Stokes is happy to say that's the decision and take responsibility(well done Ben but not surprised at all), so who carries the can if it goes wrong?

We lost a test, it's not a disaster, I just wonder if ' I just help pick the team' is really a bit of a cop out myself?

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