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Re: England�s international summer
« Reply #375 on: July 16, 2020, 01:59:15 PM »

the bat mark wood used in the sa series was one of roots, they swapped as root wanted to try a full length blade again, saw woody smashing it asked for his bat back, wood refused
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« Reply #376 on: July 16, 2020, 02:01:39 PM »

It did concern me when Chris Silverwood came out shortly after his appointment and said that England would concentrate on batting time in test cricket - there are people who have been watching the game for longer than me, but I have always thought that you win tests by scoring runs not facing deliveries and the best sides in the history of the game are those who take the game to the opposition and put them under pressure.  The way our opening pair have gone about playing Chase really concerns me.  There is no attempt to put pressure on him when he is bowling.  He made a mistake here, but I was really impressed wirh the way Crawley played Chase in the first.  Sibley in particular needs to find a way to up his.scoring options


It’s not binary.. it’s not you’re either a blocker or a biffer . Test top 3 players need to be able to occupy the crease and not worry about scoring rates. Yes they need to be able to play shots but the key is not worrying about it. Sure the GREAT players can do both (Ponting) bit they are rare. England have a flakey batting line up and so their top 3 are required to occupy the crease for 100 balls each rather than worry about ‘putting pressure on’ or shy of that aggressive mumbo jumbo.. these players just aren’t good enough (few are)..

I’m waiting for the ‘bairstow to go 3’ or ‘root to 3’ or ‘Pope/Lawrence to 3’ brigade to start up again...
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Re: England�s international summer
« Reply #377 on: July 16, 2020, 02:15:24 PM »

*geek alert* Root's first innings in goodness knows how long with a full SH length blade? *geek alert*

It doesn't look like it to me but during lockdown he said he had given away his short blades to go back to a regular length

Come on mate no one uses a standard length blade anymore 🙈
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Re: England�s international summer
« Reply #378 on: July 16, 2020, 02:28:57 PM »

good job we bat to 10!
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Re: England�s international summer
« Reply #379 on: July 16, 2020, 02:31:26 PM »

Root gifting one
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« Reply #380 on: July 16, 2020, 03:08:51 PM »


It’s not binary.. it’s not you’re either a blocker or a biffer . Test top 3 players need to be able to occupy the crease and not worry about scoring rates. Yes they need to be able to play shots but the key is not worrying about it. Sure the GREAT players can do both (Ponting) bit they are rare. England have a flakey batting line up and so their top 3 are required to occupy the crease for 100 balls each rather than worry about ‘putting pressure on’ or shy of that aggressive mumbo jumbo.. these players just aren’t good enough (few are)..

I’m waiting for the ‘bairstow to go 3’ or ‘root to 3’ or ‘Pope/Lawrence to 3’ brigade to start up again...

It shouldn't be binary and you don't have to be a great of the game to manipulate the field and put pressure on the bowler.  The content is the that West Indies are picking 4 front line bowlers, one of whom is recovering from ankle surgery.  If Chase struggles to hold an end up, that puts pressure on Holder and his ability to rotate his seamers.  Crawley as an inexperienced batsman with a first class average of 30 showed the attitude that is needed. 
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Re: England’s international summer
« Reply #381 on: July 16, 2020, 03:27:40 PM »

Root is a better player in a strong team. By that I mean, now he's the lead man he's not quite up to it.
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Re: England�s international summer
« Reply #382 on: July 16, 2020, 05:35:04 PM »

If this was Root running Gabriel into the ground then there'd be outrage
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Re: England’s international summer
« Reply #383 on: July 16, 2020, 05:44:27 PM »

Can't believe people are having a go at Sibley on the BBC chat. An England opener that isn't Sir Alastair Cook scoring runs in a test match? Give the man a new Jaguar. 
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« Reply #384 on: July 16, 2020, 06:15:23 PM »

There’s a mighty amount of people who know precious little about how to win over 5 days.

I expect some in here may have some discussion points for later  :)

Worth remembering now there is no Denly 4 out of our top 6 are inexperienced...so they bat how they do naturally. Which I think is a huge plus going forward

Sibley has been superb today, and Stokes is our best cricketer
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Re: England�s international summer
« Reply #385 on: July 16, 2020, 06:31:35 PM »

Good day after being put in!

Sibley was outstanding doing his job perfectly
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Re: England’s international summer
« Reply #386 on: July 16, 2020, 06:37:14 PM »

It shouldn't be binary and you don't have to be a great of the game to manipulate the field and put pressure on the bowler.  The content is the that West Indies are picking 4 front line bowlers, one of whom is recovering from ankle surgery.  If Chase struggles to hold an end up, that puts pressure on Holder and his ability to rotate his seamers.  Crawley as an inexperienced batsman with a first class average of 30 showed the attitude that is needed.

Then you might as well bring back roy, hales, Bairstow as your top three.. ‘put the pressure on’.. it’s a test match ffs.. you do t need to put pressure on... they ain’t good enough to bowl ball after ball after ball in the right place...
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Re: England�s international summer
« Reply #387 on: July 16, 2020, 06:47:32 PM »

I see both sides of the argument - what I would say is that Sibley is doing great for now - he will need to think over the next 12-18 months how he will develop his game so that teams are not able to work him out and work him over because his style of play can be ripe for that. 
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Re: England’s international summer
« Reply #388 on: July 16, 2020, 07:32:06 PM »

How costly is the Holder dropping Sibley going to be?
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Re: England’s international summer
« Reply #389 on: July 16, 2020, 07:35:21 PM »

I dream of the day when Burns and Sibley get hundreds in the same innings!
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