Topic: England�s international summer (Read 123832 times)

ppccopener · « **Reply #390 on:** July 16, 2020, 07:45:23 PM »

They both know how to score runs and have the right mentality, no doubt there will be challenges as opposition bowlers get used to their scoring areas.

I was thinking today, without any stat to back it up if our top 6 is now the youngest we have ever had.Im confident it's the youngest since I have been supporting England.

Manormanic · « **Reply #391 on:** July 16, 2020, 07:57:06 PM »

Quote from: billyb on July 16, 2020, 07:35:21 PM

I dream of the day when Burns and Sibley get hundreds in the same innings!

The suggestion that they can manage that within 90 overs is... Optimistic...

brokenbat · « **Reply #392 on:** July 16, 2020, 08:13:53 PM »

Quote from: Manormanic on July 16, 2020, 06:47:32 PM

I see both sides of the argument - what I would say is that Sibley is doing great for now - he will need to think over the next 12-18 months how he will develop his game so that teams are not able to work him out and work him over because his style of play can be ripe for that.

Pujara has no issues with that style of play. No need to change what�s working.

petehosk · « **Reply #393 on:** July 16, 2020, 09:19:57 PM »

I am pretty happy with Burns and Sibley as openers!
As has been said previously, we have been moaning that our top 3 were not gritty enough and would really not just bed in and work hard.
It looks as though we may have gradually turned the corner now, so let's give them a chance to develop. If we can get a top 3 who work hard, then Root, Stokes & co should hopefully be able to come in and up the run rate once the foundation of the innings has been built?
Anyway, I was moaning that we should have Burns before he was being considered and also doing the same with Sibley, so I will be keeping my fingers crossed that they establish themselves for the next few years!
Just a shame that we can't seem to decide on a keeper behind the stumps! I understand Buttler is a talent, but I am in the Foakes camp still. Also really hope that Pope can up his game at 6 too - he could be amazing if he can prove his talent at the higher level (fingers crossed!)

Manormanic · « **Reply #394 on:** July 16, 2020, 09:46:17 PM »

Quote from: brokenbat on July 16, 2020, 08:13:53 PM

Pujara has no issues with that style of play. No need to change what�s working.

Pujara scores the majority of his runs on the sub continent, and has proportionally more scoring options than Sibley, even if he is cautious about using them.

Jeff Navarro · « **Reply #395 on:** July 16, 2020, 10:35:34 PM »

Thought we did well today. Sibley, fortunate to survive at couple of drops but that�s on West Indies, Sibley is limited but he plays well to those limitations. Going forward he�ll probably have to develop a little bit more stroke play especially against spin, as panicked reverse seeeps probably won�t work against Ashwin or Jadeja. Stokes did as he does solid, the sluggish pitch probably stopped him from taking the bowlers apart later in the day.
West Indies where poor, bowled far too short. On commentary they kept saying �Roach so unlucky� well no he wasn�t. Pitch the ball up. If we get 400+ it�s game over.

potzy248 · « **Reply #396 on:** July 17, 2020, 03:36:47 AM »

You guys have produced some hard to watch batsmen and Sibly is right up there. I know its disrespectful to the job he is doing but its just so hard to watch. zzzzzzzzz.

alexhilly1492 · « **Reply #397 on:** July 17, 2020, 08:22:54 AM »

I dont get the obsession with how a batsman looks, as long as he scores runs who cares.

Steve Smith a prime and massively irritating example, i cant work out how he scores runs but he does.

Then theres the likes of Shiv Chanderpaul, who actually wasn't that unorthodox, he was very side on at release just his initial set up and for trigger was a bit odd.

id happily watch burns and sibley bat all day if were 250 - 0 at the end of the day (burns actually has a decent strike rate when he gets in) especially if it means the middle order can go mad and get us up to the 450/500 mark

mo_town · « **Reply #398 on:** July 17, 2020, 08:28:01 AM »

The test cricket world needs more Sibleys and Pujaras! Play those ugly innings, put in the hard graft and score runs for the side.

ppccopener · « **Reply #399 on:** July 17, 2020, 08:43:13 AM »

You need a blend of different styles to make a good test side, England have enough strokeplayers to make that work and it will take time to bed in after a long time looking at limited overs cricket and one day players shoe horned in to the 5 day game.

I thought Sibley and Stokes were brilliant yesterday, and if Root continues to keep giving his wicket away those type of innings will become more valuable.

Warneymonster · « **Reply #400 on:** July 17, 2020, 09:08:15 AM »

nobody ever complained when we were winning the ashes with trott and cook grinding the aussie bowlers into the ground. there is definitely place in the line up for a grafter, cook did it for years and allowed others to play around him.

I would rather sibley batted all day for 80 than a run a ball 30 then threw it away in the first hour of the day

mo_town · « **Reply #401 on:** July 17, 2020, 09:12:26 AM »

Quote from: Warneymonster on July 17, 2020, 09:08:15 AM

nobody ever complained when we were winning the ashes with trott and cook grinding the aussie bowlers into the ground. there is definitely place in the line up for a grafter, cook did it for years and allowed others to play around him.

I would rather sibley batted all day for 80 than a run a ball 30 then threw it away in the first hour of the day

Its all about the right balance though. You need stroke players in partnership with grafters to be effective. Yesterday's partnership of Stokes and Sibley was the perfect example.

alba caerulea · « **Reply #402 on:** July 17, 2020, 10:31:55 AM »

I think this england batting line up is the most balanced its been for a long while. Two proper openers, crawley showing promise at 3, root a perfect 4, Stokes and pope more expansive when needed. At least there is a clear strategy now that has worked for decades. Whether they all succeed remains to be seen!

potzy248 · « **Reply #403 on:** July 17, 2020, 10:48:06 AM »

I can Sibley getting found out pretty quickly. Neil Wagner will have a field day with him.

rickjames · « **Reply #404 on:** July 17, 2020, 11:08:48 AM »

Over after over of leg side bouncers?

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