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Re: England’s international summer
« Reply #660 on: July 26, 2020, 04:41:10 PM »

They are not going to get 380 batting last we do need to gamble- hope we are bowling for 30-45 mins tonight with tommorows forecast
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« Reply #661 on: July 26, 2020, 05:14:56 PM »

Well bowled Stuart !
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« Reply #662 on: July 26, 2020, 05:22:00 PM »

Broad could easily get a 10-fer in the match here! Fingers crossed.
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« Reply #663 on: July 26, 2020, 05:25:05 PM »

Write Stuart Broad off at your peril
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« Reply #664 on: July 26, 2020, 05:35:35 PM »

I reckon Broad must have got a great deal on weetabix!
Next he'll be walking on water. The jury is out on his headband though  :D
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« Reply #665 on: July 26, 2020, 05:44:24 PM »

They are not going to get 380 batting last we do need to gamble- hope we are bowling for 30-45 mins tonight with tommorows forecast

380 gives a buffer if the forecast for tomorrow is well off. If it isn't, then Root can set a hyper attacking field from the first ball on Tuesday.

Also worth considering that we know the Windies are poor at batting time. If they know the target is out of reach then they know they have to go against their instincts. Bit of doubt in the mind, let them make mistakes.
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« Reply #666 on: July 27, 2020, 05:59:50 AM »

Looks like its going to be rained off today. tomorrow is also slight rain prediction acc. to metoffice.
With such bad weather forecast, and almost lead of 200, the way sibley and burns batted after lunch was outrageous. going at 2 per over in 30 odd overs was beyond belief. Such selfish batting playing for themselves and not for the team. had england batted hard 35-40 overs yesterday, the english bowlers would have another more hour or so to bowl at windies.
God forbids if weather plays a spoil and ends in a draw, you do have to question the tactics of openers and the england thinktank for sending these slow openers.
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« Reply #667 on: July 27, 2020, 07:32:38 AM »

Looks like its going to be rained off today. tomorrow is also slight rain prediction acc. to metoffice.
With such bad weather forecast, and almost lead of 200, the way sibley and burns batted after lunch was outrageous. going at 2 per over in 30 odd overs was beyond belief. Such selfish batting playing for themselves and not for the team. had england batted hard 35-40 overs yesterday, the english bowlers would have another more hour or so to bowl at windies.
God forbids if weather plays a spoil and ends in a draw, you do have to question the tactics of openers and the england thinktank for sending these slow openers.

I’m sure they were just doing what they were asked, accusing them of being selfish at that level seems way over the top
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« Reply #668 on: July 27, 2020, 07:48:41 AM »

You can’t really play the forecast. They said Saturday was a total washout, then it wasn’t. Root would’ve looked a fool if he declared at 280-320 and then the weather clears up. Probably not gonna be an issue either way.
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« Reply #669 on: July 27, 2020, 07:56:04 AM »

I’m sure they were just doing what they were asked, accusing them of being selfish at that level seems way over the top

This has to be right, it's all planned and discussed.the steady start gave us momentum in the innings and Root had licence to play with a bit more freedom.

To suggest the two openers were selfish is not really how it works, it's not a club match.
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« Reply #670 on: July 27, 2020, 07:56:39 AM »

Looks like its going to be rained off today. tomorrow is also slight rain prediction acc. to metoffice.
With such bad weather forecast, and almost lead of 200, the way sibley and burns batted after lunch was outrageous. going at 2 per over in 30 odd overs was beyond belief. Such selfish batting playing for themselves and not for the team. had england batted hard 35-40 overs yesterday, the english bowlers would have another more hour or so to bowl at windies.
God forbids if weather plays a spoil and ends in a draw, you do have to question the tactics of openers and the england thinktank for sending these slow openers.

Terrible shout
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Re: England’s international summer
« Reply #671 on: July 27, 2020, 08:03:53 AM »

Looking at the openers England have had from 2012 to now, I'd far rather 50 and 100 run stands and the knowledge we have openers that, for now, can blunt the new ball and we can expect 50s and 100s from them.

We tried players like Roy, Hales, even Mo as openers. Didn't work out so well.  In England they have to be able to play the swinging seaming ball amd if it means we sacrifice 2 runs per iver in doing so, i don't have an issue with that.

We'll win this test and the series.
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Re: England’s international summer
« Reply #672 on: July 27, 2020, 08:07:47 AM »

Looks like its going to be rained off today. tomorrow is also slight rain prediction acc. to metoffice.
With such bad weather forecast, and almost lead of 200, the way sibley and burns batted after lunch was outrageous. going at 2 per over in 30 odd overs was beyond belief. Such selfish batting playing for themselves and not for the team. had england batted hard 35-40 overs yesterday, the english bowlers would have another more hour or so to bowl at windies.
God forbids if weather plays a spoil and ends in a draw, you do have to question the tactics of openers and the england thinktank for sending these slow openers.

Sorry but to suggest that the Burns and Sibley were selfish is ridiculous. They are simply not going to decide the plan by themselves.

Root is not going to declare completely based on a forecast, because if its wrong he looks like a bit of a pratt.

I think what can be said is Sibley needs to expand his game against spin as he is getting tied down to easily not able to rotate strike etc....
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« Reply #673 on: July 27, 2020, 08:12:45 AM »

Sorry but to suggest that the Burns and Sibley were selfish is ridiculous. They are simply not going to decide the plan by themselves.

Root is not going to declare completely based on a forecast, because if its wrong he looks like a bit of a pratt.

I think what can be said is Sibley needs to expand his game against spin as he is getting tied down to easily not able to rotate strike etc....

We will be touring the sub continent in the near future, Sibley has a way of getting in and staying in-the improvements he needs are massively helped by having Thorpe there as batting coach...
Can’t think of anyone better to be in the England set up and help him expand his game
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Re: England’s international summer
« Reply #674 on: July 27, 2020, 08:15:25 AM »

We will be touring the sub continent in the near future, Sibley has a way of getting in and staying in-the improvements he needs are massively helped by having Thorpe there as batting coach...
Can’t think of anyone better to be in the England set up and help him expand his game

Definitely, Thorpe one of England's greatest ever players of spin.
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