Topic: England�s international summer (Read 123714 times)

beaver5 · « **Reply #780 on:** August 05, 2020, 05:38:20 PM »

Quote from: billyb on August 05, 2020, 05:24:09 PM

I love Foakes but that isn't the most reliable stat to go off given that he has played 5 tests. He averages 38 at First Class level, so I'd expect him to average above 30 in Test cricket but certainly not 40.

Buttler is making a good case for Foakes at the moment though.

But he's done pretty well so far and some players step up at the higher level. Trescothick and Vaughan both have a better Test average than their First Class one. Even if he eventually averages mid 30's that's about the same as Buttler. I do feel it's been very poor that he hasn't been given the same sort of run in the side that has been given to others that haven't done so well.

petehosk · « **Reply #781 on:** August 05, 2020, 05:43:38 PM »

The point with Foakes is that he is a "proper" keeper and better than Bairstow and Buttler combined.
He also has a half decent 1st Class average and a better Test average. So the selectors need to pull their finger out and give him an extended chance to play some Tests.
Buttler and Bairstow are both excellent limited overs players. I would prefer to see Bairstow in the ODIs and Buttler in the T20s. Then battle it out with Pope to bat in the mid order of the Test side if they come into excellent form.

Jimbo · « **Reply #782 on:** August 05, 2020, 05:55:09 PM »

Quote from: petehosk on August 05, 2020, 05:43:38 PM

The point with Foakes is that he is a "proper" keeper and better than Bairstow and Buttler combined.
He also has a half decent 1st Class average and a better Test average. So the selectors need to pull their finger out and give him an extended chance to play some Tests.
Buttler and Bairstow are both excellent limited overs players. I would prefer to see Bairstow in the ODIs and Buttler in the T20s. Then battle it out with Pope to bat in the mid order of the Test side if they come into excellent form.

We can dream...

Jeff Navarro · « **Reply #783 on:** August 05, 2020, 09:30:59 PM »

I�m a massive Buttler fan but the experiment has run its course. I�ve seen on Twitter clowns saying �Bess is (No Swearing Please)�. Granted I�m a Leach fan, but poor chap Bess was proper mugged off by Buttler�s ineptitude with the gloves.

History shows mediocre keepers can ruin bowlers careers.

KW9221 · « **Reply #784 on:** August 05, 2020, 10:14:54 PM »

Quote from: Jeff Navarro on August 05, 2020, 09:30:59 PM

History shows mediocre keepers can ruin bowlers careers.

Yes just look at Kamran Akmal keeping stats. He has definitely ruined many bowlers careers.

rickjames · « **Reply #785 on:** August 06, 2020, 10:06:07 AM »

Lovely Jimmy

ppccopener · « **Reply #786 on:** August 06, 2020, 10:10:26 AM »

Yeah good start, he hasn't been at his best so far as others mentioned.

Babar looked good, he's a talent

Jeff Navarro · « **Reply #787 on:** August 06, 2020, 10:17:03 AM »

Shafiq is a cracking little batsman, very underrated. Reminds me a little of Rahane

rickjames · « **Reply #788 on:** August 06, 2020, 10:37:49 AM »

Lovely Broady

mo_town · « **Reply #789 on:** August 06, 2020, 10:40:42 AM »

Quote from: Jeff Navarro on August 06, 2020, 10:17:03 AM

Shafiq is a cracking little batsman, very underrated. Reminds me a little of Rahane

Well jinxed sir

brokenbat · « **Reply #790 on:** August 06, 2020, 10:41:14 AM »

Hard to see much more than 200-250 now

Jlscarroll17 · « **Reply #791 on:** August 06, 2020, 12:11:25 PM »

What does archer actually bring to this side ?

mo_town · « **Reply #792 on:** August 06, 2020, 12:12:50 PM »

Quote from: Jlscarroll17 on August 06, 2020, 12:11:25 PM

What does archer actually bring to this side ?

Swag and the promise of blistering pace which can blow away oppositions.

Jimbo · « **Reply #793 on:** August 06, 2020, 12:22:10 PM »

Quote from: Jlscarroll17 on August 06, 2020, 12:11:25 PM

What does archer actually bring to this side ?

Pace, bounce, seam and swing? He's also got some useful tricks up his sleeve, bowls a very good knuckleball and his slower balls are hard to pick with his very relaxed looking action. Gives the skipper another option in addition to Stokes when they want to try and unsettle a batsman with aggressive bowling plus Archer is also an exceptionally good fielder. Question is, what more do you want from a Test bowler?

Jimbo · « **Reply #794 on:** August 06, 2020, 12:23:42 PM »

On a different note, interesting to hear from Azhar Mahmood on TMS that they've been telling Shaheen Afridi to start using a lighter bat and he's finally started using one. Might be interesting to see if it helps him any.

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