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Re: England’s international summer
« Reply #975 on: August 09, 2020, 03:07:06 PM »

That does make sense. Anderson has not been at his best so far and Curran is a very good young player.
A different angle bowling and the batting would be strengthened.

I think Denly played a few more games as he went in 3, Root doesn’t like it and to be honest is not batting well.
Maybe back to 4 would give him a bit of a lift,even thou he got a double hundred against Pakistan I’m sure batting 3
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Re: England�s international summer
« Reply #976 on: August 09, 2020, 03:33:13 PM »

Some suggestions that Robinson will debut in place off Anderson, they don't want to risk Anderson in a third consecutive match
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« Reply #977 on: August 09, 2020, 04:06:45 PM »

I am guessing it will be Crawley for Stokes plus whatever rotation is decided upon amongst the seamers. 
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Re: England’s international summer
« Reply #978 on: August 09, 2020, 05:44:55 PM »

Be good to see Robinson, could go crazy and bring foakes in for stokes!
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« Reply #979 on: August 09, 2020, 06:27:11 PM »

Surely people can be serious about Buttler and Foakes on the same side. Neither of them are good enough to be picked for their batting alone.
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Re: England’s international summer
« Reply #980 on: August 09, 2020, 06:39:56 PM »

Foakes averages 41.5 in tests and 38 FC.

Butler averages 31 in tests and 32 in fc

Stokes averages 38 in tests, 36 in Fc

Crawley averages 26 in tests and 30.5 FC

Not sure that idea is terrible!
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« Reply #981 on: August 09, 2020, 06:53:45 PM »

England had the luxury for some time of having both Stokes and Ali in the side which meant that the side never looked short on batting or bowling.  When Bairstow was batting well we also had a keeper who could make it into the side as a batsman. With neither Stokes nor Ali we are always going to look deficient and our keeper be it Butler or Foakes isn't good enough to bat in the top 6.

Crawley in for one of Anderson or Archer  looks the obvious pick but it depends on the pitch.
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Re: England’s international summer
« Reply #982 on: August 09, 2020, 07:10:13 PM »

Foakes averages 41.5 in tests and 38 FC.

Butler averages 31 in tests and 32 in fc

Stokes averages 38 in tests, 36 in Fc

Crawley averages 26 in tests and 30.5 FC

Not sure that idea is terrible!

Crawley has hardly played any games so we’ll ignore him. And I’d like to see what stokes averages over the last 2/3 seasons. We can get away with one of them as a keeper/batsman with their various strengths but there’s a long line of other guys due a chance as a pure batter.
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Re: England’s international summer
« Reply #983 on: August 09, 2020, 07:12:50 PM »

Foakes averages 41.5 in tests and 38 FC.

Butler averages 31 in tests and 32 in fc

Stokes averages 38 in tests, 36 in Fc

Crawley averages 26 in tests and 30.5 FC

Not sure that idea is terrible!

Foakes has played 5 tests in which he averaged 69 against the spinners in Sri Lanka and 13 against the seamers in the West Indies.  He followed that by averaging 26 in FC last summer.  No way can an international side accommodate Butler and Foakes in the top 6 when we are playing against a high quality seam attack
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Re: England’s international summer
« Reply #984 on: August 09, 2020, 07:19:29 PM »

England definitely have some thinking to do now with Stokes missing.

I think Crawley will just come straight in and then they will rotate the bowlers as they feel best. Surely Anderson will rest as this will be his 3rd in a row and Wood still hasn't played since the 1st test against the Windies! Curran must also be an option as it would lengthen the batting after Stokes departure.
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Re: England’s international summer
« Reply #985 on: August 09, 2020, 07:19:46 PM »

Crawley has hardly played any games so we’ll ignore him. And I’d like to see what stokes averages over the last 2/3 seasons. We can get away with one of them as a keeper/batsman with their various strengths but there’s a long line of other guys due a chance as a pure batter.

Stokes played his first 20 games essentially  as a bowler who could bat a bit and averaged 27.  Since 2016, he has bowled less but moved up the order and averages 42.  Given the current state of our batting, Stokes leaves a huge void simply as a batsman
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Re: England’s international summer
« Reply #986 on: August 09, 2020, 07:35:44 PM »

England definitely have some thinking to do now with Stokes missing.

I think Crawley will just come straight in and then they will rotate the bowlers as they feel best. Surely Anderson will rest as this will be his 3rd in a row and Wood still hasn't played since the 1st test against the Windies! Curran must also be an option as it would lengthen the batting after Stokes departure.

Makes it difficult without Stokes. Anderson think you have called that right and to be honest he has not bowled as well as he can.Think he has been working on some technical stuff so maybe it's not coming out as he wants.

I would like to see Curran in instead of Archer and Crawley back,the other seamer Wood or Robinson.

Southampton last time round had Wood and Archer in on the basis the fastest two would do well,it proved anything but and the wickets went to medium pace with a bit of movement(Holder)

I think England will want Curran to cover a batting spot too. Stokes leaves a big gap.
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Re: England’s international summer
« Reply #987 on: August 09, 2020, 08:24:35 PM »

Surely a no brainer Crawley for Stokes. Wouldnt mind seeing Curran and Wood in for Archer and Anderson. Im a big fan of Archers talents but Im not sure the lad has much of a brain. Admitting on tv that you weren't putting in full effort is very simple. With Broad to have a rest in the last one. Decent stock of seamers available at the moment!
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Re: England’s international summer
« Reply #988 on: August 09, 2020, 08:31:01 PM »

Crawley and Curran in.....
Anderson rested, Stokes injured. I think Curran helps with the balance.
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Re: England’s international summer
« Reply #989 on: August 10, 2020, 07:38:50 AM »

Rumours of an Anderson presser today, what do we reckon.

Announcing he’s going after this series in the hope he gets to play both tests and get past 600?

Been told by management that he’s done?

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