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Re: England v Sri lanka
« Reply #210 on: January 16, 2021, 08:04:56 PM »
Should Graeme Swann be involved?
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Re: England v Sri lanka
« Reply #211 on: January 16, 2021, 08:11:01 PM »
Best English spinner since ive been watching cricket by quite a distance. Doesn't come across as Coach material unfortunately!
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Re: England v Sri lanka
« Reply #212 on: January 16, 2021, 09:14:43 PM »
Quote from: alba caerulea on January 16, 2021, 08:11:01 PM
Best English spinner since ive been watching cricket by quite a distance. Doesn't come across as Coach material unfortunately!

Coach no, but I could see him being useful in a consultancy role.
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« Reply #213 on: January 16, 2021, 10:22:03 PM »
The fact he actively complains that he hasn’t been asked by ECB to be a coach/consultant says enough for me. Although he might be right the fact he’s mentioned it multiple times suggests a hint of self importance.
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« Reply #214 on: January 16, 2021, 11:09:31 PM »
Got this text 2nd hand from an ex first class spinner:-

Jack Leach goes past perpendicular when he releases the ball so will cause inconsistency and Bess action is not repeatable and he does not spin the ball. Play Parkinson these conditions and match situation would have suited him down to the ground.

In my opinion, Bess and Leach were very poor today. If you can't consistently land the ball on the spot you shouldn't be playing test cricket. Not a fan of Lyon at he has 400 wickets by sticking it in the general area on a consistent basis.

England had a better balanced team last time out. Stokes, broad or anderson, curran or wood to bowl seam. Leach, mo and Rashid as the spinners. Batting down to 8 or 9 and 3 seamers, 3 spinners + root.
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Re: England v Sri lanka
« Reply #215 on: January 17, 2021, 12:32:44 AM »
Don’t blame England not wanting Swann around their set up. From a few ex players (who weren’t part of his little group), he came  across as a rubbish bloke/bully. Think he’s earning plenty from commentating for star sports anyway
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Re: England v Sri lanka
« Reply #216 on: January 17, 2021, 03:51:22 AM »
We always seem to struggle for a world-class spinner. Swann was an exception. I hope that changes!
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Re: England v Sri lanka
« Reply #217 on: January 17, 2021, 07:17:56 AM »
Bess keeps taking wickets!
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Re: England v Sri lanka
« Reply #218 on: January 17, 2021, 09:10:23 AM »
Quote from: Jimbo on January 16, 2021, 09:59:11 AM
Lawrence looked very assured for the vast majority of his innings, not sure what you're basing this on?

Eh? I didn't say he didn't
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Re: England v Sri lanka
« Reply #219 on: January 17, 2021, 09:17:02 AM »
Spinners finally breaking thru, phew!
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Re: England v Sri lanka
« Reply #220 on: January 17, 2021, 09:23:10 AM »
Quote from: uknsaunders on January 16, 2021, 11:09:31 PM
Got this text 2nd hand from an ex first class spinner:-

Jack Leach goes past perpendicular when he releases the ball so will cause inconsistency and Bess action is not repeatable and he does not spin the ball. Play Parkinson these conditions and match situation would have suited him down to the ground.


How much control would Parkinson give? Most leggies are notorious for lack of control or consistently landing it in the right spot.
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Re: England v Sri lanka
« Reply #221 on: January 17, 2021, 10:45:27 AM »
Great work from Jos!!!
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Re: England v Sri lanka
« Reply #222 on: January 17, 2021, 10:48:19 AM »
Quote from: SLA on January 17, 2021, 09:10:23 AM
Eh? I didn't say he didn't

"Laurence looks like that 15 year old kid that comes out in a league game and looks completely out of his depth", what did you mean by that then? 🤔
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Re: England v Sri lanka
« Reply #223 on: January 17, 2021, 11:28:42 AM »
Quote from: jimmy23 on January 17, 2021, 09:23:10 AM

How much control would Parkinson give? Most leggies are notorious for lack of control or consistently landing it in the right spot.

Let's separate a few things out. The England spinners have issues and playing Parkinson might have helped in the situation. Much as we played Rashid last time, having variation and more than 2 bowlers in your spin department is just as important on turning wickets as playing 4 seamers at home.

My comments about them not being able to bowl in the same spot is another observation, not related to the Parkinson comment as such but if the fingers could do the basics then we could play a leggie.

From what i saw today our spinners did bowl better and a bit quicker. That said i was also watching the big bash at the same time!
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Re: England v Sri lanka
« Reply #224 on: January 17, 2021, 11:34:00 AM »
We really aren't making this easy for ourselves
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