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Re: England v Sri lanka
« Reply #225 on: January 17, 2021, 11:38:36 AM »

"Laurence looks like that 15 year old kid that comes out in a league game and looks completely out of his depth", what did you mean by that then? 🤔

I meant he reminded me of that situation. He looks about 15, he has a funky technique, he doesn't look like he's been coached. You might expect him to last about 5 balls, but like the kid in my example, clearly it works for him.

I said the same thing on our club WhatsApp and everyone understood and agreed, because every club cricketer had been in that situation where a kid with an odd technique scores runs against them.

I assumed users of this forum would also have played enough cricket to recognise the reference.
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« Reply #226 on: January 17, 2021, 11:38:51 AM »

Oh for God sake
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Re: England v Sri lanka
« Reply #227 on: January 17, 2021, 11:41:48 AM »

Bairstow's head has gone
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Re: England v Sri lanka
« Reply #228 on: January 17, 2021, 11:51:50 AM »

It's very nervy, glad we not chasing anything over 100.

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Re: England v Sri lanka
« Reply #229 on: January 17, 2021, 12:10:56 PM »

Well, so far we've had an awful leave, an awful short and...you guessed it.

Quite calm for the last half hour mind.  England may even be the more disappointed at going off right now.
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Re: England v Sri lanka
« Reply #230 on: January 17, 2021, 12:37:22 PM »

First time two Engand spinners have taken a 5-for in the same match since 1982.
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Re: England v Sri lanka
« Reply #231 on: January 17, 2021, 12:37:53 PM »

It doesn't sound like the pitch is really going yet which will help us, I'd expect Bairstow to know what to do in that situation  but Lawrence showing signs of a good temperament and certainly doesn't  look like a rookie with no games behind him.
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Re: England v Sri lanka
« Reply #232 on: January 17, 2021, 12:45:49 PM »

Dan Lawrence was in the Essex system from the age of 8 or 9, so it's unlikely he never received any coaching.  But he  also grew up on a cricket ground, whiich meant he'd have had plenty of opportunity to work things out for himself.

I'm amazed so many cricket fans don't see players until they play a Test match.
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Re: England v Sri lanka
« Reply #233 on: January 17, 2021, 12:48:27 PM »

Dan Lawrence was in the Essex system from the age of 8 or 9, so it's unlikely he never received any coaching.  But he  also grew up on a cricket ground, whiich meant he'd have had plenty of opportunity to work things out for himself.

I'm amazed so many cricket fans don't see players until they play a Test match.

Personally think it's quite impressive that Lawrence has stuck with a technique that works for him when a lot of coaches will have looked at it and wanted to change it. That kind of confidence in his method bodes pretty well for a good test career.
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Re: England v Sri lanka
« Reply #234 on: January 17, 2021, 02:30:13 PM »

Maybe we should give the coaches credit for allowing him to be himself?
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Re: England v Sri lanka
« Reply #235 on: January 17, 2021, 02:46:48 PM »

It doesn't sound like the pitch is really going yet which will help us, I'd expect Bairstow to know what to do in that situation  but Lawrence showing signs of a good temperament and certainly doesn't  look like a rookie with no games behind him.

It was odd - for about six overs it ragged, then it seemed to just stop.  At this point, you would expect that these two plus maybe Buttler to account for a great ball would be enough.
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Re: England v Sri lanka
« Reply #236 on: January 17, 2021, 02:57:12 PM »

Maybe we should give the coaches credit for allowing him to be himself?

Yeah, that's a good point also. Hasn't always been the way coaching has gone in England (Anderson's bowling action for example) so positive if there's a move to embracing non-textbook techniques that work.
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Re: England v Sri lanka
« Reply #237 on: January 17, 2021, 04:12:20 PM »

Dan Lawrence was in the Essex system from the age of 8 or 9, so it's unlikely he never received any coaching.  But he  also grew up on a cricket ground, whiich meant he'd have had plenty of opportunity to work things out for himself.

I'm amazed so many cricket fans don't see players until they play a Test match.

Be realistic, how would we have seen him? It's not like Essex play a lot of televised games.
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Re: England v Sri lanka
« Reply #238 on: January 17, 2021, 05:29:13 PM »

English cricket has a history of messing spinners around.
Give the guys a chance and they have a half a chance of succeeding.
It’s the classic situation where the pundits and armchair experts who say he can’t land it, he bowls too many bad balls, bowls it too slowly, releases it past the perpendicular etc Doesn’t help when they get dropped after a handful of games.

Murali didn’t have a classic action but did ok. Leach has a good record and if he feels comfortable in the environment, I think he could do well. Bess to me looks like a decent club cricketer who gives it his all and gets dirty whites.

Virdy looks decent to me as an offie from what I’ve seen- has a nice action and gives it a rip. Haven’t seen enough of Parkinson.
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Re: England v Sri lanka
« Reply #239 on: January 17, 2021, 05:35:30 PM »

Bess looks like he's been made to run/walk through cones.
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