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Re: ENG vs IND series
« Reply #165 on: February 05, 2021, 05:56:41 AM »

Burns bringing on the collapse
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« Reply #166 on: February 05, 2021, 06:03:04 AM »

What has the TV replay guy been smoking? 😂
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« Reply #167 on: February 05, 2021, 06:04:08 AM »

Hope I’m wrong but at the moment I’m not sure on the little he has played that Lawrence is a No3 in red ball cricket. Could just be that he isn’t the best starter as I believe it’s one score of substance from 5 so far but even in Sri Lanka just doesnt look comfortable early on to me.
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« Reply #168 on: February 05, 2021, 06:17:17 AM »

It was all going so well..... and then, oh dear. Silly Burns. Just no need at all
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« Reply #169 on: February 05, 2021, 06:26:26 AM »

Latest edition of third umpires annoying me... Joe Root almost past the stumps for a run out yet the 3rd ump spends an age looking at if Ashwin gathered the ball cleanly before taking off the bails.
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« Reply #170 on: February 05, 2021, 06:36:15 AM »

Hope I’m wrong but at the moment I’m not sure on the little he has played that Lawrence is a No3 in red ball cricket. Could just be that he isn’t the best starter as I believe it’s one score of substance from 5 so far but even in Sri Lanka just doesnt look comfortable early on to me.

To be fair, that's a pretty difficult ball to get 5 balls into your innings.
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Re: ENG vs IND series
« Reply #171 on: February 05, 2021, 06:48:17 AM »

Hope I’m wrong but at the moment I’m not sure on the little he has played that Lawrence is a No3 in red ball cricket. Could just be that he isn’t the best starter as I believe it’s one score of substance from 5 so far but even in Sri Lanka just doesnt look comfortable early on to me.

He doesn't quite have that simple, watertight technique that you want from a 3

Square peg in a round hole a little bit.
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« Reply #172 on: February 05, 2021, 06:57:42 AM »

He doesn't quite have that simple, watertight technique that you want from a 3

Square peg in a round hole a little bit.

Don't know that Labuschagne has a simple, watertight technique either but he's the standout 3 in world cricket right now. 3 might not be where Lawrence bats long term but I wouldn't write him off on the basis of one innings in his third test.
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« Reply #173 on: February 05, 2021, 07:02:51 AM »

But Lawrence isn't a number 3, he's there because Crawley was injured?
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« Reply #174 on: February 05, 2021, 07:04:04 AM »

Don't know that Labuschagne has a simple, watertight technique either but he's the standout 3 in world cricket right now. 3 might not be where Lawrence bats long term but I wouldn't write him off on the basis of one innings in his third test.

Who said I was writing him off? Are you a Lawrence fanboy?

Labuschagnes technique is definitely watertight! He averages 60. Its not traditional but his technique is superb. You'll be telling me Smith and KP don't have a good technique next

Remember a technique is just something that helps you perform consistently. Not what you've read in the 1990 MCC coaching book

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« Reply #175 on: February 05, 2021, 07:04:15 AM »

To be fair, that's a pretty difficult ball to get 5 balls into your innings.

Have to agree, it was a decent ball from bumrah.
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« Reply #176 on: February 05, 2021, 07:06:43 AM »

Who said I was writing him off? Are you a Lawrence fanboy?

Labuschagnes technique is definitely watertight! He averages 60. Its not traditional but his technique is superb. You'll be telling me Smith and KP don't have a good technique next

Remember a technique is just something that helps you perform consistently. Not what you've read in the 1990 MCC coaching book

Think you need to explain what you mean by “water tight” yes he might not play like your ‘text book’ cricketer but he has scored plenty of runs in FC cricket using the technique, test cricket is a totally different ball game to FC the lad needs to be given a chance
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« Reply #177 on: February 05, 2021, 07:07:56 AM »

Who said I was writing him off? Are you a Lawrence fanboy?

Labuschagnes technique is definitely watertight! He averages 60. Its not traditional but his technique is superb. You'll be telling me Smith and KP don't have a good technique next

Remember a technique is just something that helps you perform consistently. Not what you've read in the 1990 MCC coaching book

You didn't just say watertight though, you said simple and watertight. Labuschagne's is definitely not simple and yet as you point out he's been very successful batting at 3.

And you said he doesn't have the technique you want for a number 3 and is a square peg in a round hole at 3, is that not writing him off as a number 3 option for England?
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« Reply #178 on: February 05, 2021, 07:09:31 AM »

But Lawrence isn't a number 3, he's there because Crawley was injured?

Why isn’t Lawrence a number 3 ? That is where he bats in FC cricket. Crawley’s isn’t a number 3 either, he opens the batting for Kent
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Re: ENG vs IND series
« Reply #179 on: February 05, 2021, 07:09:56 AM »

Maybe I should remove the word 'simple' from my first comment to avoid confusion.

By watertight I mean a consistent, clear approach that works for him. Lawrence has looked vulnerable in a few different areas so far, this indicates to me an inconsistent technique, or a flustered mind.

Not many players in history have had the Ian Bell, high front elbow, play in the V etc. Are we saying that all other batsmen have a bad technique? Come on
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