Topic: ENG vs IND series (Read 195658 times)

Bats_Entertainment · « **Reply #375 on:** February 09, 2021, 10:15:51 PM »

Quote from: SD on February 09, 2021, 10:09:50 PM

One day cricket is now modelled on a straight shoot out to see who can score the most runs. It seems successful both in terms of audiences and commercial and broadcasting revenues.

I still prefer test cricket to to the other formats but there is no doubt that play can be dull with a Kookaburra on a flat pitch with attritional batting.

One-day cricket always was a shoot-out to see who could score mosr runs. What else could it be? Runs just used to be a bit more difficult to come by.

SD · « **Reply #376 on:** February 09, 2021, 11:14:35 PM »

Quote from: Bats_Entertainment on February 09, 2021, 10:15:51 PM

One-day cricket always was a shoot-out to see who could score mosr runs. What else could it be? Runs just used to be a bit more difficult to come by.

Runs used to be harder to come by but the changes have been to the favour of the batsman to encourage bigger scores

Bats_Entertainment · « **Reply #377 on:** February 09, 2021, 11:39:52 PM »

Bigger scores don't necessarily make for more exciting cricket, in my opinion.

I'm not sure using a batsman-friendly ball was ever part of deliberate plan. But I accept there would be a strong reluctance to change to a more bowler-friendly one now.

TownGrazz · « **Reply #378 on:** February 10, 2021, 02:06:54 PM »

Quote from: SD on February 09, 2021, 05:22:16 PM

The readers seems to be the predominant ball in English league cricket although I think this is at least in part due to the price point the Readers balls can be pitched at given the volume of manufacture as part of Kookaburra.

For this season we are using a Readers for half of the season and Dukes for half to enable a comparison

We get a supply of Dukes and readers balls for the season but we always opt for Dukes in most situations and exclusively in league games. The readers might get used for new ball practise at nets or the occasional cup game on an absolute road were using a dukes would be a waste. We found the dukes balls provide more movement in the air and off the pitch and maintains this for a longer period which makes for much more interesting cricket and an even match between bat and ball. The readers in comparison is slightly more durable over the course of an innings (it will look in better nick at the end hence why a good for rock hard flat or very dry tracks) but stops swinging very quickly and the seam appears to be much flatter and less proud than the dukes.

InternalTraining · « **Reply #379 on:** February 10, 2021, 02:22:35 PM »

^ That's great info @TownGrazz !

Bats_Entertainment · « **Reply #380 on:** February 10, 2021, 06:05:21 PM »

The deviation in this thread is certainly more Dukes than Kookaburra!

ppccopener · « **Reply #381 on:** February 10, 2021, 09:30:27 PM »

Aside from the ball issues.

expect a better ball for the second test match or Kholi may combust.

How do we line up? Foakes for Buttler he is rested for the remainer of the tour, Anderson probably rested although def in my team as he's our best bowler someone else can rest.

Perhaps just Bess or Ali to come in. Without any form behind him, or at least improved form from before, Ali has his test record to fall back on only.

I'm sure England want to get him in, but enough to displace Bess? I'm not convinced that would improve the team.

Bess seems to have a bit of character about him, I'm going with apart from the keeper, one change in the seamers as Broad comes in.

alba caerulea · « **Reply #382 on:** February 10, 2021, 11:28:53 PM »

I read this morning that Bess bowled 18 full tosses in that 1st Test - the most by any frontline bowler since records began

But he still took 5 wickets and scored 50 odd runs. Whatever he lacks in talent he certainly makes up for in mental strength and competitiveness.

SD · « **Reply #383 on:** February 11, 2021, 12:36:56 AM »

Bess' inconsistency has almost been a strength this winter. The combination of some real dross along with some great balls has made it difficult for batsmen to settle into a rhythm against him and he has been more effective so far in the first innings when the pitch has been less helpful. Conversely, Leech's consistency has been great in the second innings when pitches have offered assistance and you are asking for the bowler to keep hitting the right areas, but his predictability has made him cannon-fodder when the pitch is playing well. As a pair they have managed to compliment each other well.

Jimmy and Broad will properly both play in the 3rd test with the pink ball in use which means Jimmy should sit this one out. Otherwise, Foakes for Butler is the only change I would make.

ppccopener · « **Reply #384 on:** February 11, 2021, 08:23:05 AM »

Quote from: SD on February 11, 2021, 12:36:56 AM

Bess' inconsistency has almost been a strength this winter. The combination of some real dross along with some great balls has made it difficult for batsmen to settle into a rhythm against him and he has been more effective so far in the first innings when the pitch has been less helpful. Conversely, Leech's consistency has been great in the second innings when pitches have offered assistance and you are asking for the bowler to keep hitting the right areas, but his predictability has made him cannon-fodder when the pitch is playing well. As a pair they have managed to compliment each other well.

Jimmy and Broad will properly both play in the 3rd test with the pink ball in use which means Jimmy should sit this one out. Otherwise, Foakes for Butler is the only change I would make.

Well summed up. Bess you sense would benefit most from Patel who is out there now, and the potential with bat we know England like-whether it�s a keeping position or a spinner.

ppccopener · « **Reply #385 on:** February 11, 2021, 04:07:53 PM »

Archer out of the second test. If Broad and Anderson were favourite to play together in the third test this coming match might need a rethink now

If Jimmy sits out the option of Woakes or extra pace of Stone.

Jimbo · « **Reply #386 on:** February 11, 2021, 05:02:49 PM »

Would love to see Stone given a go, could be a real asset in Aus with more experience and he was a handful in SL when he last got a chance.

SurreySam · « **Reply #387 on:** February 11, 2021, 05:07:57 PM »

Damn...not what you want to hear regarding Archer, hopefully the elbow is just a minor niggle. I guess it solves the awkward R&R situation with Anderson on the back of his great performance though.

So for me, the only changes will be:

Foakes in for Buttler
Broad in for Archer

alba caerulea · « **Reply #388 on:** February 11, 2021, 06:48:31 PM »

I think im right in saying Archer has had an elbow problem previously, which is a worry. Lets hope this is something minor

I'd go like for like and bring in Stone and Broad for Archer and Anderson. In a 17 Test year I dont want the two veterans playing back to back Tests on these hard dustbowls. Although Woakes would strengthen the tail and we have a 1-0 lead I wouldn't pick him without 2 top class spinners to rely on.

Im still in two minds about Bess, he does bowl some absolute filth that shouldn't be anywhere near Test level. But hes picking up wickets. And it doesn't seem to bother him too much. I thought his head might drop but he actually seems to front up and never afraid to be thrown the ball. Its handy having Root to bowl some tidy overs if Bess struggles.

Jimbo · « **Reply #389 on:** February 11, 2021, 07:19:25 PM »

Lots of sadly predictable comments on the BBC article about Archer's commitment, skill and pace. Wonder what it could be about him that means he's singled out for vitriol from these idiots 🤔

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