Topic: ENG vs IND series (Read 196318 times)

ppccopener · « **Reply #405 on:** February 12, 2021, 08:49:53 AM »

England have wanted Moeen in for a while, I'm sure he would of played in SL.

I think @alexhilly1492 is right, the selectors without Butler might think we need coverage with some experience.

Mo has a decent record but no recent form, can't say it's clear cut whether Bess or Ali is the best bet.

I would of stuck with Bess myself, he is nowhere near as good as Leach, but has something about him.

ScottParko · « **Reply #406 on:** February 12, 2021, 08:50:10 AM »

I was reading that this second pitch has a different soil underneath that is much more prone to crumbling, making it much more of a typical sub continent Bunsen from day one.

alba caerulea · « **Reply #407 on:** February 12, 2021, 08:52:11 AM »

Quote from: ScottParko on February 12, 2021, 08:50:10 AM

I was reading that this second pitch has a different soil underneath that is much more prone to crumbling, making it much more of a typical sub continent Bunsen from day one.

Pitches on the same square with different soil. Now that I would like to hear more about. Have you got a link to the article?

Jimbo · « **Reply #408 on:** February 12, 2021, 09:07:51 AM »

Quote from: 19reading87 on February 12, 2021, 08:08:54 AM

He can�t do any worse than Lawrence at 3... 😂

England need to take 20 wickets again. Stone has the inexperience so will they play both Ali and Woakes to cover this....?

I feel like he can and might do worse 😅 love Mo but when did he last play any FC cricket?

rickjames · « **Reply #409 on:** February 12, 2021, 09:15:39 AM »

When in doubt, just revert to type and produce a rank turner.

ppccopener · « **Reply #410 on:** February 12, 2021, 09:15:44 AM »

Just reading Roots comments on Bess...an opportunity to get better....clearly they are not going to say he's not good enough but that is what that says to me.

He's got potential and I'm not convinced with Ali having no form, in fact poor form, behind him recently Mo would do any better.

He's does have the experience and test wickets behind him thou, and he could bat 3 if Lawrence is left out.

Tough call, I guess that is the level we are at now thou with the test team.

Jimbo · « **Reply #411 on:** February 12, 2021, 09:23:29 AM »

Don't think Bess is the long term solution as an out and out spin bowler but certainly a lot of all-round potential. Amar Virdi or Dan Moriarty both look better bowling prospects than Bess and Leach is definitely a better bowler here and now.

jdownesbcfc · « **Reply #412 on:** February 12, 2021, 10:00:57 AM »

Quote from: ppccopener on February 12, 2021, 09:15:44 AM

Just reading Roots comments on Bess...an opportunity to get better....clearly they are not going to say he's not good enough but that is what that says to me.

He's got potential and I'm not convinced with Ali having no form, in fact poor form, behind him recently Mo would do any better.

He's does have the experience and test wickets behind him thou, and he could bat 3 if Lawrence is left out.

Tough call, I guess that is the level we are at now thou with the test team.

What makes you think Lawrence could be left out mate? Or you talking more in the future? All indications seem to be its Woakes/Stone for Archer (competing for one spot was the indications given). Moeen for Bess. Foakes for Buttler. Broad for Anderson.

Bats_Entertainment · « **Reply #413 on:** February 12, 2021, 10:06:36 AM »

Quote from: Jimbo on February 12, 2021, 09:23:29 AM

Don't think Bess is the long term solution as an out and out spin bowler but certainly a lot of all-round potential. Amar Virdi or Dan Moriarty both look better bowling prospects than Bess and Leach is definitely a better bowler here and now.

I'd be interested to know how much you've actually seen Virdi and Moriarty bowl.

Bats_Entertainment · « **Reply #414 on:** February 12, 2021, 10:10:20 AM »

Quote from: jdownesbcfc on February 12, 2021, 10:00:57 AM

What makes you think Lawrence could be left out mate? Or you talking more in the future? All indications seem to be its Woakes/Stone for Archer (competing for one spot was the indications given). Moeen for Bess. Foakes for Buttler. Broad for Anderson.

I don't think they will, but Ali's inclusion does mean they could potentially leave out a batsman, especially if Woakes plays.

jonny77 · « **Reply #415 on:** February 12, 2021, 10:13:47 AM »

I'd go -

Burns
Sibley
Lawrence
Root
Stokes
Pope
Foakes
Ali (if they're dropping Bess)
Broad
Stone
Leach

I'd go Stone as the aggressor and a direct replacement for Archer, as they didn't look comfortable against him. Think 2 seamers with Stokes is enough, plus 2 spinners and Root too. Plenty of options and Lawrence is gaining experience.

ppccopener · « **Reply #416 on:** February 12, 2021, 10:14:23 AM »

Quote from: jdownesbcfc on February 12, 2021, 10:00:57 AM

What makes you think Lawrence could be left out mate? Or you talking more in the future? All indications seem to be its Woakes/Stone for Archer (competing for one spot was the indications given). Moeen for Bess. Foakes for Buttler. Broad for Anderson.

I don't think Lawrence would be left out of the final 11. Ali has batted 3 before for us in the sub continent so it is an option available.

I think Lawrence has a bit of a tough gig at 3 but he like Sibley and Pope are the ones I hope we stick with.

I'm not convicted Ali playing strengthens the team because of his poor form and lack of recent games for us but he is a versatile cricketer and does give options.

I hope Ali if he plays does well, I have a feeling India will go after him in the next match and try and hit him out of the attack.

ppccopener · « **Reply #417 on:** February 12, 2021, 10:15:01 AM »

Quote from: Bats_Entertainment on February 12, 2021, 10:10:20 AM

I don't think they will, but Ali's inclusion does mean they could potentially leave out a batsman, especially if Woakes plays.

Yes, that would be the option

Jimbo · « **Reply #418 on:** February 12, 2021, 10:27:08 AM »

Quote from: Bats_Entertainment on February 12, 2021, 10:06:36 AM

I'd be interested to know how much you've actually seen Virdi and Moriarty bowl.

Fair bit of Virdi from following county cricket and seeing his name talked about a lot. Obviously much less of Moriarty due to him making his FC debut this year but he's made a very exciting start. Not living anywhere near Surrey I'm also basing my opinion on informed commentary from pundits whose opinions I respect.

Both, IMO, look to be tidier bowlers than Bess which I think is a pretty key characteristic of a finger spinner. Of course Bess could develop that but they're all of a similar age so you'd expect that Virdi and Moriarty will develop as bowlers too.

alba caerulea · « **Reply #419 on:** February 12, 2021, 10:46:21 AM »

Virdi bowls alot of filth aswell between some magic balls. Does turn the ball significantly though.

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