Topic: ENG vs IND series (Read 195944 times)

Bats_Entertainment · « **Reply #420 on:** February 12, 2021, 11:21:28 AM »

Bess doesn't look very natural to me. Like I said before, he looks like he's been made to run through cones and go in straight lines. But Moeen Ali does too.

Tony Game · « **Reply #421 on:** February 12, 2021, 09:09:09 PM »

Early night, alarm set; so let�s see what the morrow brings 🙂

ppccopener · « **Reply #422 on:** February 12, 2021, 09:12:33 PM »

Quote from: jonny77 on February 12, 2021, 10:13:47 AM

I'd go -

Burns
Sibley
Lawrence
Root
Stokes
Pope
Foakes
Ali (if they're dropping Bess)
Broad
Stone
Leach

I'd go Stone as the aggressor and a direct replacement for Archer, as they didn't look comfortable against him. Think 2 seamers with Stokes is enough, plus 2 spinners and Root too. Plenty of options and Lawrence is gaining experience.

Looks like you have it right, Ali is playing and it's between Woakes and Stone for the last place. I think Woakes is very underrated and never lets us down.

At some point thou you have to see what the others are like in a match and they are all important. So if we do go with Stone we can at least see how he goes, he definatley has pace that's for sure.

I hope Ali does well, I hope not but I can see the Indian batsmen targeting him after so long out of the test side.

Anyway, looking forward to it.

ppccopener · « **Reply #423 on:** February 12, 2021, 09:14:06 PM »

Quote from: Tony Game on February 12, 2021, 09:09:09 PM

Early night, alarm set; so let�s see what the morrow brings 🙂

Yep. Luck with the toss is needed.

alba caerulea · « **Reply #424 on:** February 12, 2021, 09:23:26 PM »

Woakes averages 80 in India. And 50 in SA, NZ and Aus.

22 at home with the Dukes

I dont think he's underrated. Hes just not the same bowler without that ball. If he was we'd have a 2nd world class all rounder in the squad.

ppccopener · « **Reply #425 on:** February 12, 2021, 09:41:18 PM »

Quote from: alba caerulea on February 12, 2021, 09:23:26 PM

Woakes averages 80 in India. And 50 in SA, NZ and Aus.

22 at home with the Dukes

I dont think he's underrated. Hes just not the same bowler without that ball. If he was we'd have a 2nd world class all rounder in the squad.

He's underrated. Broad averages 55 in India. Not great is it? Stats only tell one side of a player and you can pick out the relevant ones to suit your point of view.

As an allround cricketer, not a world class one, Woakes is decent, and underrated.

alba caerulea · « **Reply #426 on:** February 12, 2021, 11:00:40 PM »

Quote from: ppccopener on February 12, 2021, 09:41:18 PM

He's underrated. Broad averages 55 in India. Not great is it? Stats only tell one side of a player and you can pick out the relevant ones to suit your point of view.

As an allround cricketer, not a world class one, Woakes is decent, and underrated.

Well of course Ive used a relevant stat. An irrelevant stat wouldnt make much sense would it.

Accepted that Broads record in Asia isnt great either. But For Woakes its the rule. For Broad its the exception.

This isn't my point of view. These are statistic based facts. Those averages aren't good enough thus far away from home. At home hes superb no arguing

And even aside from stats - ive been on two overseas tours that hes played on and hes looked toothless with the ball both times. Craig Overton was an improvement in the last Ashes!

Jimbo · « **Reply #427 on:** February 12, 2021, 11:38:36 PM »

Woakes is a much improved bowler compared to even a few years ago, suspect he wouldn't let England down if given a game. Would rather see Stone in though for the express pace option and to get him some more test experience.

ppccopener · « **Reply #428 on:** February 12, 2021, 11:44:16 PM »

Quote from: Jimbo on February 12, 2021, 11:38:36 PM

Woakes is a much improved bowler compared to even a few years ago, suspect he wouldn't let England down if given a game. Would rather see Stone in though for the express pace option and to get him some more test experience.

He is indeed. I think we will go with Stone thou at some point these guys have to play and he does have pace.
If the Indian Express report is correct, this pitch will have more carry for the fast bowlers. I find that a bit hard to believe but let�s see.

SD · « **Reply #429 on:** February 13, 2021, 01:04:59 AM »

My hope is that Ali has come in for Bess to provide more experience to allow Stone to play. My fear is that Woakes and Ali both play in a defensive more to add more batting

billyb · « **Reply #430 on:** February 13, 2021, 02:09:21 AM »

I don't think dropping Bess was harsh - it was warranted given how erratic he was in that test match, even if he had taken wickets.

However, the way he was dropped seems pretty harsh to me. The statement I read from Root felt pretty damning. Surely a 'just go and build on your confidence and your accuracy' to Bess, and a 'Moeen offers us something different on this pitch and Bess needs a rest' to the public would have sufficed?
Just feels a bit heavy-handed. However, I am so excited for the game later!

Really hope Moeen comes back a hero.

SwingAndMiss · « **Reply #431 on:** February 13, 2021, 03:49:55 AM »

Look at that pitch! India win the toss/test

billyb · « **Reply #432 on:** February 13, 2021, 04:08:28 AM »

Stone!!!

The extra skill Foakes brings could be the difference on a pitch like this.

Jimbo · « **Reply #433 on:** February 13, 2021, 04:32:34 AM »

Really encouraging to see this from Stone. Pace, aggression and good carry so far.

rickjames · « **Reply #434 on:** February 13, 2021, 05:14:16 AM »

This is gonna be a slog

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