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Re: ENG vs IND series
« Reply #570 on: February 14, 2021, 09:15:07 AM »
Quote from: ppccopener on February 14, 2021, 09:03:22 AM
Pant to be fair is a batter first it's hard to compare the two players as keepers.

Foakes thou is batting is good I've been watching it all, just what we need from a keeper-he seems to scrap for runs pretty well on difficult surfaces.

His keeping has been an absolute joy, we will lose this test but it's good to see a class Keeper in action

Yes Pant is a batter first, but this is test cricket. Surely he shouldn't be that bad and be playing at that level?
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Re: ENG vs IND series
« Reply #571 on: February 14, 2021, 09:17:10 AM »
Quote from: brokenbat on February 14, 2021, 08:50:23 AM
Whinging about the pitch is not a good look. Only stokes seemed to have gotten an “unplayable” ball, but even for him, the primary deception was in flight (it was full enough for him to smother the spin).

Disagree, ground staff have a duty to provide a pitch that is useful for 5 days, it can deteriorate yes.

This was a day 5 pitch from the outset, you can't say this has been a good pitch, you can't say this has been an ok pitch, it's poor.

That being said.. we have been comfortably second best but the pitch is a shocker

Can you imagine how bad it'll be on day 5?? It should be like this in day 5 not day 2
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« Reply #572 on: February 14, 2021, 09:19:56 AM »
Foakes is doing nothing for my “always pick Jos” standpoint with his flawless glove work & skilful batting.
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Re: ENG vs IND series
« Reply #573 on: February 14, 2021, 09:21:46 AM »
Quote from: beaver5 on February 14, 2021, 09:15:07 AM
Yes Pant is a batter first, but this is test cricket. Surely he shouldn't be that bad and be playing at that level?

He's very untidy....I'm not sure the options for the keeping position in India's current squad. I thought Gill kept as well.

India had Dhoni for ages....so it's kind of a continuation from that-Dhoni was better than Pant but again a bit untidy.

Keeping positions seem to be getting less important for teams. I'm just pleased Foakes is playing here - and he is scrapping for runs like a traditional keeper

He's playing pretty well all things considered
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Re: ENG vs IND series
« Reply #574 on: February 14, 2021, 09:23:32 AM »
Quote from: t2ylo on February 14, 2021, 09:19:56 AM
Foakes is doing nothing for my “always pick Jos” standpoint with his flawless glove work & skilful batting.

It's a good effort so far from Foakes, just managing to stay in and sneak some singles here and there.
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Re: ENG vs IND series
« Reply #575 on: February 14, 2021, 09:28:02 AM »
I said it when Crawley got injured that Foakes would be a good choice at 3. I stand by that, he looks far better than Lawrence in these conditions.
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Re: ENG vs IND series
« Reply #576 on: February 14, 2021, 09:28:13 AM »
Good catch but he's going the wrong way initially
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Re: ENG vs IND series
« Reply #577 on: February 14, 2021, 09:28:16 AM »
Quote from: ppccopener on February 14, 2021, 09:23:32 AM
It's a good effort so far from Foakes, just managing to stay in and sneak some singles here and there.
one of those annoying things is that having Butler just as a pure batsman may have been just what we need here - have a bit of a dip from number 3 - with Foakes at 7 providing the 'grit' if we get in the (No Swearing Please)!!! (as we have)
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Re: ENG vs IND series
« Reply #578 on: February 14, 2021, 09:31:15 AM »
Haha. I think Pant must have been listening.  Great catch!  :o :o
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Re: ENG vs IND series
« Reply #579 on: February 14, 2021, 09:33:03 AM »
think Pant was got good hands, but he is lazy in his footwork, untidy and doesn't look as 'fit/athletic' as he should/could be - not saying he is fat, but i would say like Bairstow is too 'bulky' to maximise his keeping athletism
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Re: ENG vs IND series
« Reply #580 on: February 14, 2021, 09:34:34 AM »
Game over then
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Re: ENG vs IND series
« Reply #581 on: February 14, 2021, 09:35:15 AM »
Why is Broad pulling out the massive sweep when Foakes is batting well and grinding out runs?
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Re: ENG vs IND series
« Reply #582 on: February 14, 2021, 09:35:20 AM »
Quote from: More Glue Than Wood on February 14, 2021, 09:28:16 AM
one of those annoying things is that having Butler just as a pure batsman may have been just what we need here - have a bit of a dip from number 3 - with Foakes at 7 providing the 'grit' if we get in the (No Swearing Please)!!! (as we have)

Yeah totally agree. I don't think myself it's impossible both play in the same side, Butler plays spin well and has improved significantly as a batter alone.

All over now thou, Foakes left high and dry-a good effort from him
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Re: ENG vs IND series
« Reply #583 on: February 14, 2021, 09:43:08 AM »
As we like a hypothetical conversation on here:

What's Englands route to victory?

Roll India for <100 then bat better and pray?
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Re: ENG vs IND series
« Reply #584 on: February 14, 2021, 09:44:30 AM »
Quote from: alexhilly1492 on February 14, 2021, 09:43:08 AM
As we like a hypothetical conversation on here:

What's Englands route to victory?

Roll India for <100 then bat better and pray?
There is none, if we’d followed on I’m not sure they’d have batted again.
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