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Re: ENG vs IND series
« Reply #585 on: February 14, 2021, 09:47:45 AM »
Quote from: alexhilly1492 on February 14, 2021, 09:43:08 AM
As we like a hypothetical conversation on here:

What's Englands route to victory?

Roll India for <100 then bat better and pray?

Virat has a brain melt - declares now and instructs his bowlers to 'only bowl full tosses' for the entire of our second innings!!!
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Re: ENG vs IND series
« Reply #586 on: February 14, 2021, 09:56:52 AM »
Quote from: Jimbo on February 14, 2021, 09:35:15 AM
Why is Broad pulling out the massive sweep when Foakes is batting well and grinding out runs?

I think he’s a very selfish cricketer and doesn’t seem to care much about anyone else but himself, seems a regular thing when it comes to him having to bat time with someone set at the other end
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Re: ENG vs IND series
« Reply #587 on: February 14, 2021, 09:57:15 AM »
moaning about wicket being not good is absolutely useless  As toss was not fixed England could have won the toss and results could have been different. England picked up their spinners knowing the situation but simply they did not do their part so far. and India batted well.
all these players have tons of experience and should be able to play the bowler not depending on how wicket plays.

enjoy the match
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Re: ENG vs IND series
« Reply #588 on: February 14, 2021, 09:58:55 AM »
Quote from: jayralh on February 14, 2021, 09:57:15 AM
all these players have tons of experience and should be able to play the bowler not depending on how wicket plays.


What an odd statement that is. Stokes could play 10000 tests and I’m not sure it helps him keep that out.
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Re: ENG vs IND series
« Reply #589 on: February 14, 2021, 10:02:42 AM »
Quote from: jayralh on February 14, 2021, 09:57:15 AM
moaning about wicket being not good is absolutely useless  As toss was not fixed England could have won the toss and results could have been different.

Bit of an odd statement that.

Of course the toss isn't fixed, but it's pretty much nailed on with this pitch that whoever wins the toss will win the game.
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Re: ENG vs IND series
« Reply #590 on: February 14, 2021, 10:04:43 AM »
Moeen bowling dross
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Re: ENG vs IND series
« Reply #591 on: February 14, 2021, 10:05:56 AM »
Quote from: beaver5 on February 14, 2021, 09:28:02 AM
I said it when Crawley got injured that Foakes would be a good choice at 3. I stand by that, he looks far better than Lawrence in these conditions.
Agree with you there mate. Lawrence looks horrible. Even if Crawley is fit, I would still go with extra bowler for the next test. Crawley didn't had the best of time in Sri lanka and struggles against the spin
With Stokes hardly bowling these days, England are just bowling with 4 bowlers in these hot humid conditions. Just feel England are a bowler short.
My playing 11 for third test would be:
Burns
Sibley
Foakes
Root
Stokes
Pope
Ali
Bess
Archer
Leach
Anderson
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Re: ENG vs IND series
« Reply #592 on: February 14, 2021, 10:06:21 AM »
Quote from: Jlscarroll17 on February 14, 2021, 09:56:52 AM
I think he’s a very selfish cricketer and doesn’t seem to care much about anyone else but himself, seems a regular thing when it comes to him having to bat time with someone set at the other end

Not sure that selfish is a very apt description. Stupid definitely says it though, someone with his experience should have the nous to read the situation and realise that the longer they can drag the innings out the better.
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Re: ENG vs IND series
« Reply #593 on: February 14, 2021, 10:08:23 AM »
Quote from: Jimbo on February 14, 2021, 10:06:21 AM
Not sure that selfish is a very apt description. Stupid definitely says it though, someone with his experience should have the nous to read the situation and realise that the longer they can drag the innings out the better.
I agree to a point but there’s no way we’re batting out two days to save the game regardless.
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Re: ENG vs IND series
« Reply #594 on: February 14, 2021, 10:08:30 AM »
Quote from: gpun22 on February 14, 2021, 10:05:56 AM
Agree with you there mate. Lawrence looks horrible. Even if Crawley is fit, I would still go with extra bowler for the next test. Crawley didn't had the best of time in Sri lanka and struggles against the spin
With Stokes hardly bowling these days, England are just bowling with 4 bowlers in these hot humid conditions. Just feel England are a bowler short.
My playing 11 for third test would be:
Burns
Sibley
Foakes
Root
Stokes
Pope
Ali
Bess
Archer
Leach
Anderson

What is Foakes at 3 based on? Has he ever batted there in his FC career?

I cannot see how even someone extremely physically fit can keep wicket and then go out and bat at 3 in Indian conditions.
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Re: ENG vs IND series
« Reply #595 on: February 14, 2021, 10:10:00 AM »
Quote from: Kulli on February 14, 2021, 10:08:23 AM
I agree to a point but there’s no way we’re batting out two days to save the game regardless.

No but stick around and see how much you can grind out, they picked up quite a few in extras alone while Foakes stuck about. Never know what's going to happen in the Indian innings.
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Re: ENG vs IND series
« Reply #596 on: February 14, 2021, 10:16:10 AM »
Quote from: Jlscarroll17 on February 14, 2021, 09:56:52 AM
I think he’s a very selfish cricketer and doesn’t seem to care much about anyone else but himself, seems a regular thing when it comes to him having to bat time with someone set at the other end

Jesus! Has he slept with your mrs or something? Selfish is a bit over the top

Broad has batted like that for years now, it cant be a shock to you. Sometimes it comes off sometimes it doesn't.

How Englands number 11 bats should be the least of anyones worries! Look at the guys above him! Or shall we discuss how Sibley offers England nothing with the ball?
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Re: ENG vs IND series
« Reply #597 on: February 14, 2021, 10:20:41 AM »
I think bairstow will probably come in for Lawrence, straight swap at 3 and leave foakes further down the order, don’t really see the need for another bowler, root needs to bowl himself more especially in these conditions he’s a better option than Bess. Two front line seamers and spin bowlers with the addition of root and stokes should be enough
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Re: ENG vs IND series
« Reply #598 on: February 14, 2021, 10:21:28 AM »
Quote from: Jimbo on February 14, 2021, 10:08:30 AM
What is Foakes at 3 based on? Has he ever batted there in his FC career?

I cannot see how even someone extremely physically fit can keep wicket and then go out and bat at 3 in Indian conditions.
Well there's always a first for everything. Foakes showed class, temperament and confidence to do well in these conditions. He looked class apart from the rest.
If fitness is an issue for these modern day players then root can bat at 3 and foakes at 6.
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Re: ENG vs IND series
« Reply #599 on: February 14, 2021, 10:24:55 AM »
The pitch hasn't changed at all, the toss has had absolutely no influence on this game at all. India have just bowled better and batted better.
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