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Re: ENG vs IND series
« Reply #630 on: February 14, 2021, 11:24:03 AM »

or am i just being a standard batsman that thinks all bowlers are moaning, whinging, grumpy buggers  :D :D :D :D :D :D
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« Reply #631 on: February 14, 2021, 11:24:17 AM »

They didn't need to get 200 though, did they? It's the first innings, the approach should have been to try and keep going and allow Foakes to keep batting as long as possible.

Criticism of the batsmen is a different issue and you're welcome to start a discussion on that too if you'd like 😂

You cant seriously think that anything Broad could do in that situation would alter the result of the match?

If there was a realistic chance of even getting a draw I might be inclined to agree with you. But it was already gone.

Id rather not start to criticise the actual batsman other than to say they haven't been good enough in this match.

Bairstow and Crawley in for Burns and Lawrence? I do feel a bit for Lawrence in that hes been thrown in at 3, and certainly wouldnt rule him out long term. Burns looks like he hasnt batted for 2 years



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Re: ENG vs IND series
« Reply #632 on: February 14, 2021, 11:24:36 AM »

I imagine the same traits that make them a bit stroppy on the pitch are also the traits that drive them to do the hours of training they've put in to develop their skills. Cannot imagine it's much fun constantly bowling at a set of stumps by yourself as Broad did when he was changing his run up.
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« Reply #633 on: February 14, 2021, 11:25:47 AM »

that is true - we will miss them - just wonder if they really need to be like that to be at their best - not sure you help your team by being like that - i play with two guys that are the same about catches and misfields - except when you pick them up for making mistakes - they have a right strop

always get the impression with those sort of people that it is one rule for them and one for another

I have no problem with intensity on the field as long as its not personal. These 2 guys just want to win, dont think there is any agenda other than that. Unless you are KP and feel victimised 😂
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Re: ENG vs IND series
« Reply #634 on: February 14, 2021, 11:28:13 AM »

You cant seriously think that anything Broad could do in that situation would alter the result of the match?

I don't expect him to change the game but as a fan I'd like to imagine that a professional cricketer would at least try.

I can't reconcile having a huge wipe at one on middle stump from the last ball of an over, with a set batsman at the other end who has just tried to keep strike for the next over, with the idea that Broad was really doing his best. As you've said, he's an intelligent cricketer, so he should be playing smarter cricket.
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Re: ENG vs IND series
« Reply #635 on: February 14, 2021, 11:29:25 AM »

With Crawley, have they confirmed his injury is expected to be good to go by the next test?
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Re: ENG vs IND series
« Reply #636 on: February 14, 2021, 11:31:57 AM »

Im sure if a result was achievable Broad would have stuck it out longer. In this particular case have a dash - why not.

I thought Crawley was only missing the first 2 matches, maybe Im wrong
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Re: ENG vs IND series
« Reply #637 on: February 14, 2021, 11:32:12 AM »

For me India are using home advantage better have better spinners and batsman more accustom to the conditions bit like us at home with the swinging ball.

No blame just they asked for this kind of wicket and got it like what we would do at home.
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« Reply #638 on: February 14, 2021, 11:34:38 AM »

Why not - it's a matter of opinion but personally I think a professional sportsman should be trying their best regardless of the match situation.

Yeah, I'd heard two games was the initial assessment but hadn't seen any updates to suggest he was back training or anything.
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Re: ENG vs IND series
« Reply #639 on: February 14, 2021, 11:39:04 AM »

Slightly changing tact but I'm no Archer fan generally, his is just a bowling position-he can't bat at test level.

Can honestly say I've been very impressed with Stone, great action, good pace and a big heart.

He's been excellent
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« Reply #640 on: February 14, 2021, 12:11:05 PM »

Awful day for England. Tough to expect anything else though, especially when you’re playing against 12.

The 3rd umpire is an absolute disgrace and should never officiate in international cricket ever again.
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Re: ENG vs IND series
« Reply #641 on: February 14, 2021, 12:22:39 PM »

Awful day for England. Tough to expect anything else though, especially when you’re playing against 12.

The 3rd umpire is an absolute disgrace and should never officiate in international cricket ever again.

Although I agree the officiating has been shocking, am I right in thinking the 3rd umpire didn’t look at the LBW there as the on-field umpire confirmed the batsman was playing a shot? If that’s the case, not really the 3rd umpires fault on this occasion!  May I stress I’m not defending his overall performance though!
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Re: ENG vs IND series
« Reply #642 on: February 14, 2021, 12:23:12 PM »

a professional sportsman should be trying their best regardless of the match situation.

Any sportsman.
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Re: ENG vs IND series
« Reply #643 on: February 14, 2021, 12:25:45 PM »

Burns is now averaging about the same as Jennings and Stoneman and all those others.
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Re: ENG vs IND series
« Reply #644 on: February 14, 2021, 12:26:19 PM »

That incident with Rohit not playing a shot was absolutely comical, the officiating has been awful. But that’s cricket. India have just been better than us, and foakes was the only English batsman that properly applied himself. Doesn’t matter what the officials do if you consistently have 42* as the highest individual score.
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