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Re: ENG vs IND series
« Reply #1065 on: February 24, 2021, 04:12:20 PM »

Could today get any worse
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« Reply #1066 on: February 24, 2021, 04:13:47 PM »

Could today get any worse

Short of Root collapsing, not really.  That was village from Pope, sadly. 
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« Reply #1067 on: February 24, 2021, 04:22:40 PM »

Not saying that Rohit stumping was out but would it kill the third umpire to look at more than one camera angle before making every decision in favour of India?
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« Reply #1068 on: February 24, 2021, 04:23:49 PM »

I thought he’d lifted his foot but in the trench where they’ve been marking the guard made it look grounded.
Should have looked at more angles.
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Re: ENG vs IND series
« Reply #1069 on: February 24, 2021, 04:24:01 PM »

Eng definitely missing 2nd spin bowler, can't imagine how a team can go with just one spinner in Indian tests.  Bess could have created some trouble/picked wickets on this pitch even if you consider the few loose balls he bowls. 
Imagine it will be a strange case where fastbowlers need to bowl in between to give rest to lone spinner here.
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Re: ENG vs IND series
« Reply #1070 on: February 24, 2021, 04:26:13 PM »

As an aside, this commentary team is (No Swearing Please) awful. Never thought I'd be desperate to hear Rob Key but Christ...
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Re: ENG vs IND series
« Reply #1071 on: February 24, 2021, 04:34:49 PM »

Eng definitely missing 2nd spin bowler, can't imagine how a team can go with just one spinner in Indian tests.  Bess could have created some trouble/picked wickets on this pitch even if you consider the few loose balls he bowls. 
Imagine it will be a strange case where fastbowlers need to bowl in between to give rest to lone spinner here.

Yes but England I'm afraid have mishandled both Bess and Mo. You can't drop Bess,tell him to get better with no matches for him to get better in, then pick him for this game otherwise they would have to admit it was wrong in the first place.

I cannot for the life of me work out why they could not say something else about Bess....resting him, got a fake injury, cat died back home.

Anything other than how they handled it. It's poor. Very poor.
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Re: ENG vs IND series
« Reply #1072 on: February 24, 2021, 05:07:21 PM »

I have wondered if there’s more to the Bess story than meets the eye.
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Re: ENG vs IND series
« Reply #1073 on: February 24, 2021, 05:10:51 PM »

Terrible day for England, yet not entirely out of it. If (BIG if) they can bowl out India in the first session tomorrow then it might still be game on, but that would be bordering on miracle territory, and we’d still be relying on these batsmen on six-figure salaries not missing straight ones...
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Re: ENG vs IND series
« Reply #1074 on: February 24, 2021, 05:11:16 PM »

Yes but England I'm afraid have mishandled both Bess and Mo. You can't drop Bess,tell him to get better with no matches for him to get better in, then pick him for this game otherwise they would have to admit it was wrong in the first place.

I cannot for the life of me work out why they could not say something else about Bess....resting him, got a fake injury, cat died back home.

Anything other than how they handled it. It's poor. Very poor.

Agree, the way they handled Bess after 1st test when he picked up wickets and then not giving him chance to improve. Plus he isn't a dud with bat either..
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Re: ENG vs IND series
« Reply #1075 on: February 24, 2021, 05:23:39 PM »

He is better than handy with the bat we have seen. Our tail looks a bit long in this game, Woakes could of done a job as a seamer and a little more wi the bat than the other bowlers.

Hard to come in thou with sitting out  the SL matches prior to this tour
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Re: ENG vs IND series
« Reply #1076 on: February 24, 2021, 05:36:23 PM »

Not saying that Rohit stumping was out but would it kill the third umpire to look at more than one camera angle before making every decision in favour of India?


Quite agree - he clearly lifted his foot, and whilst he may have gotten it down, it was touch and go at best.

I thought the umpire encapsulated the position very well when giving Gill not out to Broad (which looked stone dead on the telly but was umpires call) - a smug grin and a shake of the head. 
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Re: ENG vs IND series
« Reply #1077 on: February 24, 2021, 05:39:58 PM »


Quite agree - he clearly lifted his foot, and whilst he may have gotten it down, it was touch and go at best.

I thought the umpire encapsulated the position very well when giving Gill not out to Broad (which looked stone dead on the telly but was umpires call) - a smug grin and a shake of the head.

It's not exactly doing much to draw in new fans to test cricket when the pitch has a huge crater in it on the first day and the umpiring process contradicts itself about 5 times an innings.
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Re: ENG vs IND series
« Reply #1078 on: February 24, 2021, 07:13:02 PM »

He is better than handy with the bat we have seen. Our tail looks a bit long in this game, Woakes could of done a job as a seamer and a little more wi the bat than the other bowlers.

Hard to come in thou with sitting out  the SL matches prior to this tour

Woakes has now played 0 out of 5 matches on these Tours. Although the first one he was unavailable for. The other seamers have all played at least 1 match including 80mph Sam Curran.

You have to think England have now (rightly so imo) pigeonholed him as a home only bowler. And was probably only taken on these tours as he has a full central contract.

In any case a like for like isnt the way to go in another daytime Test. If a seamer is left out for the 4th Test it should almost certainly be a spinner brought in. You cant strengthen the tail in India to weaken the bowling - where are the 20 wickets going to come from?

If Bess is still not pickable they need to throw a wildcard in in Parkinson or Virdi. At least give yourself the right set up for the conditions.

I have wondered if there’s more to the Bess story than meets the eye.

This thought had crossed my mind aswell. The PR machine had always backed him until suddenly it didn't. Strange
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Re: ENG vs IND series
« Reply #1079 on: February 24, 2021, 07:38:32 PM »

I mean.. India still have time to throw this game away but what a joke by England yet again. Bairstow.. laughable .. I mean, he avg's 35 ffs


sadly, in SL yet again.. people were saying what a great side England were.. It really was just how bad SL are and yet, I'm sure people will be saying how great this side is... Curran still in the test squad again, like Bairstow.. says it' all about the quality about..

India prepared a feather bed first up and played badly.. they aren't making that mistake again
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