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Re: ENG vs IND series
« Reply #1200 on: February 25, 2021, 12:41:48 PM »
Quote from: Buzz on February 25, 2021, 12:40:29 PM
Going to throw a contraversial opinion here, but I don't think Archer is a number 8 batsman. Maybe a 10.

He's an 8 in T20s, not tests.
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« Reply #1201 on: February 25, 2021, 12:46:21 PM »
+1 for the earlier comments on the commentary by the way, trying to justify this pitch as the only type that tests a batsman’s skill
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Re: ENG vs IND series
« Reply #1202 on: February 25, 2021, 12:53:04 PM »
Quote from: Buzz on February 25, 2021, 12:40:29 PM
Going to throw a contraversial opinion here, but I don't think Archer is a number 8 batsman. Maybe a 10.

You are correct and he never has been.

In this team however we have 4 guys that should all be batting 10 or 11

I said it last match - hard to blame the bowlers when the top 7 have failed twice
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Re: ENG vs IND series
« Reply #1203 on: February 25, 2021, 01:03:34 PM »
Quote from: SouthpawMark on February 25, 2021, 12:38:49 PM
Questions need to be asked about Silverwood and co. If this is what their coaching results in then there’s something seriously wrong. Pathetic batting from start to finish.

I struggle to see how a coach can be blamed
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Re: ENG vs IND series
« Reply #1204 on: February 25, 2021, 01:04:28 PM »
Just more disappointing that they clawed a way back into the game, then dug themselves back out of it.
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Re: ENG vs IND series
« Reply #1205 on: February 25, 2021, 01:04:44 PM »
Quote from: cricketbadger on February 25, 2021, 01:03:34 PM
I struggle to see how a coach can be blamed

Mindset, tactics, influence on selection?
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Re: ENG vs IND series
« Reply #1206 on: February 25, 2021, 01:07:21 PM »
Root opening the bowling will be slightly embarrassing. Shows how wrong they got selection
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« Reply #1207 on: February 25, 2021, 01:07:39 PM »
Quote from: SouthpawMark on February 25, 2021, 01:04:44 PM
Mindset, tactics, influence on selection?

Do you think that any of these things would have made a significant difference in this or the last Test?
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Re: ENG vs IND series
« Reply #1208 on: February 25, 2021, 01:07:58 PM »
Might be worth thinking we are about 50 runs only from a potential win
Another few runs in the first or second innings and a lead of 100 could of been enough to win on this pitch.

I’m not going to complain about the pitch but maybe this shows what they have to prepare to beat us
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Re: ENG vs IND series
« Reply #1209 on: February 25, 2021, 01:09:15 PM »
Quote from: Mtown Don on February 25, 2021, 01:07:39 PM
Do you think that any of these things would have made a significant difference in this or the last Test?

Selection maybe. Having more batting and another spinner would have kept this slightly more competitive.
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Re: ENG vs IND series
« Reply #1210 on: February 25, 2021, 01:09:20 PM »
Quote from: csnew on February 25, 2021, 01:07:21 PM
Root opening the bowling will be slightly embarrassing. Shows how wrong they got selection

Given that he took 5 for 8, if anything picking Bess would have made England worse. Other than picking another batsman (Burns or Lawrence)  who I doubt would have scored runs, I don’t think it would make any odds
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Re: ENG vs IND series
« Reply #1211 on: February 25, 2021, 01:18:09 PM »
Quote from: Mtown Don on February 25, 2021, 01:09:20 PM
Given that he took 5 for 8, if anything picking Bess would have made England worse. Other than picking another batsman (Burns or Lawrence)  who I doubt would have scored runs, I don’t think it would make any odds

Could argue they over bowled seam on day 1 in that last session
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Re: ENG vs IND series
« Reply #1212 on: February 25, 2021, 01:20:03 PM »
Can we all at least now agree that there was nothing really wrong with the pitch for the 2nd test?
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Re: ENG vs IND series
« Reply #1213 on: February 25, 2021, 01:22:32 PM »
Quote from: csnew on February 25, 2021, 01:18:09 PM
Could argue they over bowled seam on day 1 in that last session

You could, but was that because Root was nursing his hand injury or might they have done that anyway under the lights? It’s pretty marginal to be completely rubbishing the coaching.

Enough teams have had this treatment in India that I just don’t feel compelled to blame it all on England getting it wrong. The first Test was India’s second home defeat in 35 after all!
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Re: ENG vs IND series
« Reply #1214 on: February 25, 2021, 01:23:53 PM »
Quote from: csnew on February 25, 2021, 01:07:21 PM
Root opening the bowling will be slightly embarrassing. Shows how wrong they got selection

He's the 2nd best spinner in the tour party. He may even be the 2nd best English spinner, currently.
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