Topic: ENG vs IND series (Read 170353 times)

SouthpawMark · « **Reply #1770 on:** March 18, 2021, 08:41:26 PM »

Quote from: Jimbo on March 18, 2021, 06:25:56 PM

Sam had a pretty good IPL last time around, don't forget how young he still is given that some of the world's best T20 players are in their mid 30s.

He�s still young, but his batting has gone backwards, and he doesn�t strike me as someone who is suddenly going to add 5 mph of pace. If he wasnt a leftie seamer he�d be nowhere near the England side.

Manormanic · « **Reply #1771 on:** March 18, 2021, 08:49:25 PM »

I can see Sam Currans value in a home Test squad. I'm just not sure what he brings to this side. If he doesn't get the new ball he will hardly bowl and there is no evidence he is yet the standard of bat required.

Honestly, Joe Root should take that spot, or Ali/Livingstone. At least they'd vary the attack.

Jimbo · « **Reply #1772 on:** March 18, 2021, 09:44:20 PM »

Quote from: Manormanic on March 18, 2021, 08:49:25 PM

I can see Sam Currans value in a home Test squad. I'm just not sure what he brings to this side. If he doesn't get the new ball he will hardly bowl and there is no evidence he is yet the standard of bat required.

Honestly, Joe Root should take that spot, or Ali/Livingstone. At least they'd vary the attack.

Curran does vary the attack with being a leftie but given Willey's experience and the fact he's got lots more experience I can see the value he would add over Curran. Curran could learn a lot about new ball bowling in white ball from understudying with Willey as the lead.

Would also give England the option to open up with Willey in the powerplay where his record is right up there, push Wood into the middle overs a bit more and reduce the pressure on Stokes' bowling.

edge · « **Reply #1773 on:** March 18, 2021, 10:27:22 PM »

I still don't understand what part of cricket Sam Curran is better than David Willey at.

Jimbo · « **Reply #1774 on:** March 18, 2021, 11:01:30 PM »

Quote from: edge on March 18, 2021, 10:27:22 PM

I still don't understand what part of cricket Sam Curran is better than David Willey at.

Getting IPL contracts 😂

SD · « **Reply #1775 on:** March 19, 2021, 02:08:58 AM »

Based on the squad out here, I am struggling to see how the Currans are getting games over Ali.

six and out · « **Reply #1776 on:** March 19, 2021, 06:58:26 AM »

Quote from: SD on March 19, 2021, 02:08:58 AM

Based on the squad out here, I am struggling to see how the Currans are getting games over Ali.

It also makes an absolute mockery of him going home for a rest from the tests before the white ball games if he doesn't play!!!!

I mean Morgan must have had an idea of the formation of his side etc....

gpun22 · « **Reply #1777 on:** March 19, 2021, 08:06:35 AM »

Quote from: LBWCandidate on March 18, 2021, 02:49:00 PM

Looked not out. Given out due to soft signal.

Definitely not out.
There has been a lot of criticism in the indian media about the third umpire. Artherton in the commentry also mentioned how can an onfield umpire see a boundary catch/no catch from 60 yards away and give a soft signal.
This rule needs definitely to be updated by ICC. Just refer those ones to the third umpire without third umpire.
Regarding the Malan catch, the third umpire must be blind to not see that the ball touching the ground. I mean his little fingers clearly split after the kneen hit his hand and the visual clearly shows the ball touching the ground. He must be blind not to see that. There was conclusive evidence there to overturn the onfield decision.

The adil rashid catch was a touch and go. Whether the spikes was touching the boundary board or not wasn't clearly visible. In saying that there is noway the onfield umpire sees that so how can you give the soft signal.
Personally I tought the spikes was touching the boundary board but I am okay with the inconculsive decision but the Malan catch decision was a shocker. Incompetent umpiring at its best.

gpun22 · « **Reply #1778 on:** March 19, 2021, 08:07:10 AM »

*without soft signal

csnew · « **Reply #1779 on:** March 19, 2021, 11:20:57 AM »

Quote from: Jimbo on March 18, 2021, 11:01:30 PM

Getting IPL contracts 😂

IPL contract sorted for a few years. Fleming and dhoni see him part of their future

Manormanic · « **Reply #1780 on:** March 19, 2021, 11:26:03 AM »

Quote from: Jimbo on March 18, 2021, 09:44:20 PM

Curran does vary the attack with being a leftie but given Willey's experience and the fact he's got lots more experience I can see the value he would add over Curran. Curran could learn a lot about new ball bowling in white ball from understudying with Willey as the lead.

Would also give England the option to open up with Willey in the powerplay where his record is right up there, push Wood into the middle overs a bit more and reduce the pressure on Stokes' bowling.

He doesn't though - he would, if they were going to use him for two or three in the Powerplay when the ball might swing, but they don't appear to be, so its a token over to help Stokes through his allocation, which tends to go the distance. Willey would be a better batting option I suspect, but still wouldn't bring a lot with the ball because they appear wedded to Dilly, Jof and Wood being the new ball three now so for me an extra spinner who bring a lot with the bat would be the pick.

Jimbo · « **Reply #1781 on:** March 19, 2021, 11:59:01 AM »

Quote from: Manormanic on March 19, 2021, 11:26:03 AM

He doesn't though - he would, if they were going to use him for two or three in the Powerplay when the ball might swing, but they don't appear to be, so its a token over to help Stokes through his allocation, which tends to go the distance. Willey would be a better batting option I suspect, but still wouldn't bring a lot with the ball because they appear wedded to Dilly, Jof and Wood being the new ball three now so for me an extra spinner who bring a lot with the bat would be the pick.

Moeen would definitely add something useful. Not sure what the aversion is to including Willey as a new ball wicket taker, he's done it successfully before.

Manormanic · « **Reply #1782 on:** March 19, 2021, 09:03:52 PM »

Quote from: Jimbo on March 19, 2021, 11:59:01 AM

Moeen would definitely add something useful. Not sure what the aversion is to including Willey as a new ball wicket taker, he's done it successfully before.

I think they want Wood and Archer to bowl a lot at the top so he is not needed. Plus he vocalised his upset at missing out on the WC so is doubtless in Morgan bad books.

What they seem to need, assuming Jordan stays, is someone to bowl 1 to 4 overs between 7 and 17. Ideally they bat, which rules out the two best options I can think of in Stone and Mahmood. And Plunkett, who fits the bill perfectly, is about 570 years old.

six and out · « **Reply #1783 on:** March 19, 2021, 09:12:18 PM »

If Morgan was that unsure about things then others would have got a go in this series, an ideal time to see how they fit in to the team, in the conditions of the World Cup against quality opposition. Yet Morgan has only made 1 change in 4 games and Tom Curran went round the park.

Topley, Ali etc.... are maybe going to play in the ODI's but that doesn't give them much hope of getting in the T20i side.

SouthpawMark · « **Reply #1784 on:** March 20, 2021, 01:21:46 PM »

Thanks for coming back to India, Mo. 🙄

Can�t believe Curran has been given ANOTHER chance to unimpress.

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