Topic: ENG vs IND series (Read 170444 times)

Kulli · « **Reply #1860 on:** March 23, 2021, 07:05:27 PM »

Didn�t Stokes miss the entire SL tour?

gpun22 · « **Reply #1861 on:** March 23, 2021, 07:11:43 PM »

Quote from: Kulli on March 23, 2021, 07:05:27 PM

Didn�t Stokes miss the entire SL tour?

If you know the answer why are you asking?

gpun22 · « **Reply #1862 on:** March 23, 2021, 07:12:35 PM »

Quote from: Kulli on March 23, 2021, 07:05:27 PM

Didn�t Stokes miss the entire SL tour?

Go and check the touring players if you want the answer

Jordansh · « **Reply #1863 on:** March 23, 2021, 07:15:27 PM »

Quote from: SouthpawMark on March 23, 2021, 06:35:13 PM

I�d like him to start scoring runs again, and also to welcome Hales back in to the fold. He�s served his punishment, and now is the time to reintegrate him in to both the T20 and ODI sides. He�s one of our best white ball players, and needs to be in the side of we�re going to challenge for the WC. Morgan needs to get over it and do what�s best for the team. It was for the best that he was kicked out a couple of years ago, and now it�s for the best that he comes back. The much vaunted deep batting line-up isn�t actually that deep.

Am I right in thinking that Morgan is main reason why he's not in the England set up, given his previous comments to the press?

If/When Morgan retires does he come back in?

ppccopener · « **Reply #1864 on:** March 23, 2021, 07:25:30 PM »

Quote from: Jordansh on March 23, 2021, 07:15:27 PM

Am I right in thinking that Morgan is main reason why he's not in the England set up, given his previous comments to the press?

If/When Morgan retires does he come back in?

There's another thread I started about Hales, lots of different views on there. The long and short of it is Ashley Giles has now held out an olive branch to Hales to get him in and train with the team.

Morgan so far just says there's not much space for him.Personally I think Hales is an idiot, however, the big call is to forgive and forget and at least try to integrate him.

I'm not blaming England entirely for the KP situation but we must learn things from that I reckon. It's interesting now with hindsight Strauss and some other wish that situation could of been 'handled better'.

If Hales had a black mark against him, 2 years don the line it's time to clear it off

SouthpawMark · « **Reply #1865 on:** March 23, 2021, 09:05:24 PM »

Quote from: beaver5 on March 23, 2021, 07:05:10 PM

Glaring hole in the side was no Root. He brings stability to the team, while others have the freedom to go all out. They should have picked someone to do that role and Malan is the obvious choice for me.

Billings is a good player, but rarely if ever wins a game single handed. He's not even the best batsman in the Kent team.

Billings is a top top player, and should have played a lot more for England. My view is that he has been hamstrung by his versatility in international cricket. No-one has worked out where his best position is, and he�s been shunted everywhere in the order as a result. I�m not sure how you can cement a place by giving consistent performances when you�re treated in such an inconsistent manner.

InternalTraining · « **Reply #1866 on:** March 23, 2021, 09:33:57 PM »

Quote from: SouthpawMark on March 23, 2021, 06:35:13 PM

I�d like him to start scoring runs again, and also to welcome Hales back in to the fold. He�s served his punishment, and now is the time to reintegrate him in to both the T20 and ODI sides. He�s one of our best white ball players, and needs to be in the side of we�re going to challenge for the WC.

I am a firm believer in second chances. Cricket fans would love to see Hales at the center stage.

Morgan is an experienced campaigner and a shrewd captain. He knows which side is the favorite (India) to win the WC. Why would he show his hand now. I think he is using this tour to find out all the weaknesses against the best side and fill the gaps after the tour. Here is my prediction (#InternalTraining, #Prediction):

1. Hales will play for England in the WC-T20.
2. Morgan will time Hales entry in the squad to boost team's morale when team needs it -- last leg of the wc prep; and, keep Hales hungry to prove himself.

At this level, all these guys can play. It's a matter of who handles pressure, mind games better. Why would Kohli sledge Butler? Kohli knows Butler is dangerous; he wants to live inside Butler's head rent free. It'd make sense if Morgan would want to psyche out the competition by some late inclusions in the squad.

Lead up to the WC will be very interesting.

ScottParko · « **Reply #1867 on:** March 23, 2021, 09:43:26 PM »

Quote from: SouthpawMark on March 23, 2021, 09:05:24 PM

Billings is a top top player, and should have played a lot more for England. My view is that he has been hamstrung by his versatility in international cricket. No-one has worked out where his best position is, and he�s been shunted everywhere in the order as a result. I�m not sure how you can cement a place by giving consistent performances when you�re treated in such an inconsistent manner.

He was our standout performer last summer in 50 over cricket. Annoyed me at times the comms suggesting he was still just a stop gap, I think he�s earned his spot in the side and should be displaced as oppose to dropped simply to make room for someone else.

Jimbo · « **Reply #1868 on:** March 23, 2021, 10:52:26 PM »

Quote from: ScottParko on March 23, 2021, 09:43:26 PM

He was our standout performer last summer in 50 over cricket. Annoyed me at times the comms suggesting he was still just a stop gap, I think he�s earned his spot in the side and should be displaced as oppose to dropped simply to make room for someone else.

Well he isn't going to replace Morgan as he's not captain, Stokes as he isn't an all-rounder or Root as he isn't better than Root. Realistically that means Billings either replaces Buttler (unlikely) or slots in at 3/4 I reckon. Personally I can't see him making that role his own in the immediate future.

For me, England should line up in 50 over cricket something like this -

Bairstow
Roy
Hales
Root (Hain introduced in lower stakes games ideally)
Morgan
Stokes
Buttler
Woakes
Moeen/S Curran/AN Bowling Allrounder
Archer
Rashid

Billings is probably a capable option at 5/6/7 in that side to allow for rotation, etc. I don't see how he displaces anyone though, until a few of the current generation move on.

AJ2014 · « **Reply #1869 on:** March 24, 2021, 07:39:39 AM »

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/cricket/article-9395013/David-Lloyd-Careful-Virat-Kohli-words-consequences.html
Being Best batter in the world Kohli, would like to see you best behaved cricketer as well.

InternalTraining · « **Reply #1870 on:** March 24, 2021, 02:41:56 PM »

^ He desperately wants to win a trophy before his form starts declining.

adb club cricketer · « **Reply #1871 on:** March 24, 2021, 03:23:48 PM »

Read this article:
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/cricket/article-9395013/David-Lloyd-Careful-Virat-Kohli-words-consequences.html

Dont agree with the logic that all tests will be over in 2 days if umpires call is removed. So then he is basically saying some batsmen should get lucky from umpires call so that tests can go longer than 2 days while others can go under the bus being given out when it just clips the stumps. If he is so concerned about that, maybe rule should be - if clipping more than half - then out, less than half - then not out, and still remove umpires call. That way there is consistency for every batsman and also removes fear of batsmen getting out due to clipping stumps/tests getting over in 2 days.

Jeff Navarro · « **Reply #1872 on:** March 24, 2021, 04:22:22 PM »

Iyer out of the series with shoulder dislocation.
Morgan, Billings and Rohit doubts for Friday with their respective issues.

ProCricketer1982 · « **Reply #1873 on:** March 24, 2021, 08:13:12 PM »

Quote from: adb club cricketer on March 24, 2021, 03:23:48 PM

Read this article:
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/cricket/article-9395013/David-Lloyd-Careful-Virat-Kohli-words-consequences.html

Dont agree with the logic that all tests will be over in 2 days if umpires call is removed. So then he is basically saying some batsmen should get lucky from umpires call so that tests can go longer than 2 days while others can go under the bus being given out when it just clips the stumps. If he is so concerned about that, maybe rule should be - if clipping more than half - then out, less than half - then not out, and still remove umpires call. That way there is consistency for every batsman and also removes fear of batsmen getting out due to clipping stumps/tests getting over in 2 days.

or.. remove it all together... if it's hitting the stumps at all.. it's out. It's the same for both sides so it's fair. Batters are just not good enough defensively now.. nothing To do with DRS or the pitches really.. Batters just aren't prepared to bat long unless it's biffing it to all parts.

All that would happen is batters wouldn't wander across their stumps as much.. meaning less leg side hitting. Players would have to be circumspect on the off side for fear of nicking off more etc etc.. just means less domination from power hitting really

alexhilly1492 · « **Reply #1874 on:** March 24, 2021, 08:32:19 PM »

Again... The whole poi t of DRS and umpires call has been missed..

You CANNOT remove umpires call.. that is the tolerance in the tracking software... It's obvious that this key point is being missed and it's actually quite alarming how many on the game don't get this

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