Topic: How often has it happened? (Read 7296 times)

SouthpawMark · « **Reply #30 on:** March 24, 2021, 04:44:52 PM »

Quote from: SurreySam on March 24, 2021, 04:09:58 PM

The stiffer more plastic type of face sheets like hammer edge are about 0.75oz and the helicopter scuff sheets are around 0.4oz. Adding a toe guard will be around 0.25oz as well, so you could add in the region of 1oz to a bat by fitting a scuff sheet and toe guard.

We�re not talking about toe guards. Obviously they will make more of a difference as they are at the very end of the opposite end you�re holding - basic physics. A scuff sheet is a tiny amount of weight, spread evenly across a large surface area. I�ve just weighed one - 12g, and that�s including the backing sheet. I reckon the backing sheet makes up 1/3 of the total weight, so you�re talking 8g or 0.28oz.

If anyone says they can feel the difference between a bat that weighs 2lb 10oz and 2lb 10.28oz then they are speaking utter nonsense. However, Paul from IJC will probably give you a job.

SurreySam · « **Reply #31 on:** March 24, 2021, 05:18:48 PM »

Interesting you're weighing a scuff much less, mine were weighed after removal. I'm certainly not trying to say you can feel a .25oz difference, I'm just saying a collective weight of circa 1oz (your add on's may vary) is not really negligible. It's certainly not major either!

brokenbat · « **Reply #32 on:** March 24, 2021, 06:22:40 PM »

If you truly want the answer, get a digital food scale and weigh time to time. In my experience, bats do gain/lose weight (up to 1 oz). Also depends on where your bats are coming from, and what the humidity level of the origin is relative to yours - this is why any bat I get from the Uk, drops 1-1.5oz here in North America (houses are drier due to heating during winters), whereas Indian bats don�t show much change. Also, a bat that is newly manufactured, will have more moisture to lose than something that�s been sitting on the shelf for a year.

Get a scale and track the changes - going by feel isn�t enough as the same weight can feel lighter/heavier on different days.

brokenbat · « **Reply #33 on:** March 24, 2021, 06:27:47 PM »

Quote from: SouthpawMark on March 24, 2021, 04:44:52 PM

We�re not talking about toe guards. Obviously they will make more of a difference as they are at the very end of the opposite end you�re holding - basic physics. A scuff sheet is a tiny amount of weight, spread evenly across a large surface area. I�ve just weighed one - 12g, and that�s including the backing sheet. I reckon the backing sheet makes up 1/3 of the total weight, so you�re talking 8g or 0.28oz.

If anyone says they can feel the difference between a bat that weighs 2lb 10oz and 2lb 10.28oz then they are speaking utter nonsense. However, Paul from IJC will probably give you a job.

The clear sheets are closer to 0.5 oz. @SurreySam is correct. The fibre sheets are much lighter at 0.25oz. I think GM sheets are a smidge thinner than the other clear sheets, and are about 0.35 oz (that�s how much the removed Stokes sheet weighed when I took it off).

And each person is different - to me 0.3 oz does make a difference in feel. Inzimam was famous for just grabbing any bat lying around and going out to play - he didn�t care about the weight at all. To each their own. Rather than telling people they are speaking nonsense for being able to tell the difference in 0.3-0.5 oz, let them decide on their own.

AJ2014 · « **Reply #34 on:** March 24, 2021, 06:28:37 PM »

Quote from: brokenbat on March 24, 2021, 06:22:40 PM

Get a scale and track the changes - going by feel isn’t enough as the same weight can feel lighter/heavier on different days.

This is actually what I'm experiencing but why? That's what I want to know, has this got to do how body muscles are feeling or arm muscles, tiredness? There must be some exploration for this, it doesn't seem that bat is weighting differently every other day

SD · « **Reply #35 on:** March 24, 2021, 07:46:09 PM »

Quote from: AJ2014 on March 24, 2021, 06:28:37 PM

This is actually what I'm experiencing but why? That's what I want to know, has this got to do how body muscles are feeling or arm muscles, tiredness? There must be some exploration for this, it doesn't seem that bat is weighting differently every other day

Its both from my experience. I do have a set of digital scales which I have used to weigh bats for the sake of curiosity. They do fluctuate both up and down to a surprising degree.

In terms of how heavy they feel when you use them, your perception will also fluctuate based on muscle fatigue and recovery. If I pick up a bat the day after I have been doing pull ups which fatigue the muscles in the forearms, it feels far heavier than 2 days letter when the muscles have repaired.

AJ2014 · « **Reply #36 on:** March 24, 2021, 07:58:57 PM »

Quote from: SD on March 24, 2021, 07:46:09 PM

Its both from my experience. I do have a set of digital scales which I have used to weigh bats for the sake of curiosity. They do fluctuate both up and down to a surprising degree.

In terms of how heavy they feel when you use them, your perception will also fluctuate based on muscle fatigue and recovery. If I pick up a bat the day after I have been doing pull ups which fatigue the muscles in the forearms, it feels far heavier than 2 days letter when the muscles have repaired.

Thanks for sharing SD.
So after lifting light weights arm elbow and shoulder feel good, picking up bat later on the day or next day feels heavier, that's what might have been happening.
but then, if lifting not even light weights, then how will I get a stronger/arms? Not only batting, but for bowling and throwin the ball?

brokenbat · « **Reply #37 on:** March 24, 2021, 08:35:29 PM »

Quote from: AJ2014 on March 24, 2021, 07:58:57 PM

Thanks for sharing SD.
So after lifting light weights arm elbow and shoulder feel good, picking up bat later on the day or next day feels heavier, that's what might have been happening.
but then, if lifting not even light weights, then how will I get a stronger/arms? Not only batting, but for bowling and throwin the ball?

Simple solution as a quick fix prior to nets /games - shadow bat with 2 bats held together, then switch to the bat you�re using.

AJ2014 · « **Reply #38 on:** March 24, 2021, 08:47:35 PM »

Quote from: brokenbat on March 24, 2021, 08:35:29 PM

Simple solution as a quick fix prior to nets /games - shadow bat with 2 bats held together, then switch to the bat you�re using.

That's simple solution for you man! 😀😀😀
For me impossible!

brokenbat · « **Reply #39 on:** March 24, 2021, 08:55:37 PM »

Quote from: AJ2014 on March 24, 2021, 08:47:35 PM

That's simple solution for you man! 😀😀😀
For me impossible!

Or get a weighted bar. There is no other way to make the bat feel lighter prior to going out to bat. Other players will vary their grip - lower if the bat is feeling too heavy, higher if feeling too light. After a certain point, you�re just overthinking things.

AJ2014 · « **Reply #40 on:** March 24, 2021, 09:07:18 PM »

Quote from: brokenbat on March 24, 2021, 08:55:37 PM

Or get a weighted bar. There is no other way to make the bat feel lighter prior to going out to bat. Other players will vary their grip - lower if the bat is feeling too heavy, higher if feeling too light. After a certain point, you�re just overthinking things.

Guess me getting old, has to do with this

AJ2014 · « **Reply #41 on:** March 24, 2021, 09:11:27 PM »

But this question arises, do I totally stop lifting weight, even light weights?

Kai · « **Reply #42 on:** March 24, 2021, 09:20:25 PM »

Quote from: AJ2014 on March 24, 2021, 09:11:27 PM

But miss question arises, do I totally stop lifting weight, even light weights?

No, its good to lift just make sure you give yourself enough rest before training or a match so your muscles recover from the soreness. Diet can be vital too.

AJ2014 · « **Reply #43 on:** March 24, 2021, 09:34:34 PM »

Quote from: Kai on March 24, 2021, 09:20:25 PM

No, its good to lift just make sure you give yourself enough rest before training or a match so your muscles recover from the soreness. Diet can be vital too.

This is good advise, I'll try to handle myself with more care 👍

Jimbo · « **Reply #44 on:** March 24, 2021, 10:44:28 PM »

Or be like the madman I used to play football with - who would run a 10K 'for fun' then come play a full football match right after - and lift weights on the days you have cricket training and matches.

Realistically, if you are as you say getting older, it'll take longer to recover from any challenging exercise so just allow more time for recovery and it'll be fine.

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